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Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by A_COMPUTER »

disposition2 wrote: post #176
ams6110 wrote: post #30

Things are so different now. When I was in high school, all of the following were common: - Boys carrying pocket knives/hunting knives. - Boys with firearms in their cars/trucks so they could go hunting after school. - Access to a wide variety of chemicals in chemistry class. - Access to a wide variety of electrical and electronic components in physics class. - Access to a wide variety of power and machine tools in i…

See Columbine and the influx of 'zero tolerance'. I was actually in school to see the before and after, unfortunately, the after has become less tolerant and more reactionary and so we have what you see here (and really just about every day in the school year in the US you'll find a similar story).

After the OK City bombing my school banned wearing camouflage. They were afraid of school shootings at some point so they banned coats that were "tool long" or "too bulky". A friend of mine got in trouble for wearing a leather jacket.

Maybe this kid WAS singled out because he had brown skin, but school administrators were overreacting to stupid shit decades ago, in ways that obviously weren't connected to "racism."

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by X-Istence »

austenallred wrote: post #143

This hits way too close to home. Not because I have brown skin, or because I've ever been arrested for making "a bomb" that is not a bomb, but because when you're that age you're constantly surrounded and disciplined by people who don't understand you. Or what you're doing. Or why it's cool. I'd be willing to bet part of the reasoning around his arrest is, "Why would a student need to make his own clock?" I wish I co…

The Hacker Manifesto by The Mentor from Phreak Magazine still applies:

http://phrack.org/issues/7/3.html

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by mikeash »

[deleted] wrote: post #526
mikeash wrote: post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're assuming that it actually looked like a bomb. It clearly did not. (There are pictures linked elsewhere in this comment thread, so you can see.) What happened is that a bunch of complete idiots thought it looked like a bomb, only because they have no idea what a bomb looks like, and they are additionally ignorant of their own ignorance.

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To have a bomb you need explosives. Did this "looks like a bomb" have anything that looked like explosives? No. Therefore it did not actually look like a bomb.

I assume that you meant to google image search IED. Doing so, I see one image with an exposed PCB. I see several images with cell phones. One shows a Coke can. Are we to believe that an exposed Coke can also "looks like a bomb"? Or should we maybe believe that showing up in a Google Image search for a particular term is not sufficient to "look like" something?

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by warfangle »

baldfat wrote: post #254
chejazi wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If public schools are going to succeed, then many states need to "catch up" when it comes to funding. More funding will attract more teachers, creating a stronger candidate pool. If you look at the average funding per student by state, Texas isn't doing so hot [1], especially for being the second largest state [2]. There's definitely more to it than just funding, but I think that would be a good starting point. [1] h…

People HATE TAXES. People HATE paying school tax when they don't have children in school or never had children in school. We under value in society 1) Education (We make fun of smart people who lack social graces) 2) Science (Scoff at all science and under fund Space Programs) I ran for local School Board in my city. We are a school district with over 90% qualify for free lunch and extreme poverty. Parents pick Chart…

> People HATE paying school tax when they don't have children in school or never had children in school.

Recently (well, a few years ago), there was a controversy in my home state about the removal of funding for bus transport to and from magnet schools. I went to one of those magnet schools - as did my two older siblings.

I brought it up talking to my dad (who still lives there), and he said, "well, I don't have a horse in that race anymore."

Meanwhile, those schools' academic ratings are plummeting...

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by lotor »

s_kilk wrote: post #305
lotor wrote: post #255

From eastern europe... If a gypsy kid walks behind you you better keep guarding your belongings. Is that racist ? Yes maybe it is. But it is because most of the time THE gypsy kid is really trying to steal something from you. Should you start being careless because somebody tells you that it's racist ? Do you people really want to live in a world where gays,transgenders,gypsies,blacks,hispanics,yellows,purples are fa…

This is the dumbest thing I've read all week. You're getting downvoted, rightly, but I wanted to explain why that is. > Is that racist ? Yes > Do you people really want to live in a world where gays,transgenders,gypsies,blacks,hispanics,yellows,purples are favoured and put on pedestal You've got a pretty distorted view of all this. No-one (sane) is advocating for putting any group on a pedestal, we're just asking peo…

In middle-east the terrorists are using the children either as a live shields or are brainwashing them to commit terrorism. Same in the europe. Same in the states. Is every muslim kid or a kid named ahmed a terrorist ? Hell no. But you should be cautious at all time.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Post by mynameishere »

austenallred wrote: post #464

Here's a photo of the device he was arrested for having: http://i.imgur.com/upANL9d.jpg

What an odd picture. Not sure why you didn't link to a real source. This seems to have a similar looking circuit board:

http://fusion.net/story/197958/irving-texas-police-arrest-mu...

But then this article has a completely different picture:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/15/student...

If it was really mounted in that case in your picture, it's indeed a little funny looking. I mean, all of this politically correct rage is misplaced if the fucking thing actually did look like a bomb. You gotta know that's not something to take into a school...

And who "invents" a clock anyway? It's sort of already-done. I mean, 50 years ago kids were putting together AM radios with electronic kits. At least that's sort-of interesting. It picks up signals from a 1000 miles away--cool! I mean, a clock? Why not invent an inclined plane next?

Oh, well. The media needs to push its narrative.

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Post by lotor »

dopamean wrote: post #267
lotor wrote: post #255

From eastern europe... If a gypsy kid walks behind you you better keep guarding your belongings. Is that racist ? Yes maybe it is. But it is because most of the time THE gypsy kid is really trying to steal something from you. Should you start being careless because somebody tells you that it's racist ? Do you people really want to live in a world where gays,transgenders,gypsies,blacks,hispanics,yellows,purples are fa…

We don't have a problem with Muslim children bringing bombs to school in America. I am dumbfounded by the idiocy of this comment.

I bet you are the one screaming for taking the guns from people.

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Post by warfangle »

msandford wrote: post #423
baldfat wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Attach a specific dollar amount to a student. Allow that student to go to whichever school they want. End of story. Allow it to go where there is little to no public over sight, no public school board or checks and balances, under performing scores, teachers paid $20,000 less with no pension, and CEOs making millions. Charter Schools are a part of the problem with American education. Sure some Charter Schools are g…

Public schools also do plenty of dumb things. It's not as though charter schools have a lock on this. A lot of people want "vouchers" so that private schools are more affordable. And plenty of private schools have a good track record, while having similar per-pupil costs as public schools. If it costs $1000/student/month irrespective of if a child goes to a public school or a private school, why does the state really…

> If it costs $1000/student/month irrespective of if a child goes to a public school or a private school, why does the state really care which one the child attends? Why not let parents choose the school?

Except it doesn't. In fact, at-risk children going to poorly performing schools cost more per dollar: they need more extra curricular activities, possibly counseling, lower cost lunches, a lower teacher:student ratio, and so on and so forth. More children at poorly performing schools have more problems with their home life, and school is about the only thing other than organized crime that can give them structure.

There was a whole season of The Wire about this.. :)

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Post by ticviking »

jpereira wrote: post #399
chejazi wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If public schools are going to succeed, then many states need to "catch up" when it comes to funding. More funding will attract more teachers, creating a stronger candidate pool. If you look at the average funding per student by state, Texas isn't doing so hot [1], especially for being the second largest state [2]. There's definitely more to it than just funding, but I think that would be a good starting point. [1] h…

Wouldn't more funding in public schools just eventually lead to more expensive private schools which leads to there being new standards set for education? We've seen this recently with a college degree becoming the new high school diploma in regards to the job market.

That has nearly as much to do with changing standards. While I was completing my teaching credential I watched the standards process dumb things down so schools could achieve an "acceptable pass rate"

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Post by zaphar »

tmsam wrote: post #462
zaphar wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my day we called unschooling homeschooling. And it's a lot of work. It's a fix for those families that can afford to do it. However the families most harmed by public school policies are precisely the people who can't afford to unschool or homeschool which is perhaps the saddest part of all of this. [edit]: spelling

I would like to point out that homeschooling and unschooling are not the same thing. From: http://www.pbs.org/parents/education/homeschooling/unschooli... "Unschooling is a branch of homeschooling that promotes nonstructured, child-led learning. There’s no set curriculum or schedule."

Homeschooling may encompass a lot of different methodologies but as I said Homeschooling back when I did it which was a long time ago it had a lot of similarities to unschooling as it's defined now.

The point here though is that whether you call it Homeschooling or Unschooling it is still a labor intensive process that will likely require sacrifice on the part of the parents. Sacrifices that many times a lower income family can not afford to make.

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