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14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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This hits way too close to home. Not because I have brown skin, or because I've ever been arrested for making "a bomb" that is not a bomb, but because when you're that age you're constantly surrounded and disciplined by people who don't understand you. Or what you're doing. Or why it's cool. I'd be willing to bet part of the reasoning around his arrest is, "Why would a student need to make his own clock?" I wish I co…

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Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Make three boxes. Label them BOMB 1, BOMB 2, and BOMB 4. Put them in various places around the school. Grab some popcorn and a comfy chair.

Fun fact, making this suggestion is probably illegal in Canada.

You liar, that fact is not fun!

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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> If he didn't have permission to do it From a previous news article I've read (not linked) - he claimed the previous system administrator told him to do it and he continued following their instructions. Again this has to have some other side to it - because if someone told me to do that and I googled what it was I would definitely question it and bring it to the administration and let them decide what to do (which s…

> I find it hard to believe that if it truly was using that much more electricity that someone who does the budget for the school didn't catch it right away. How the fuck are the accoutants supposed to connect "big increases in electricity use" with "unauthorised installation of software on 5,000 school computers"?

Well, based on the 9 year / millions of dollars thing (and I agree this is a bit of a stretch), someone might say "Oh, hey, Jerry - are we paying $200,000 more this year for electricity than we did last year? Have prices changed? Not that much? Hm. Did we expand? We should look into this, I mean, that's a fair wedge of cash."

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Stupidity does not adequately explain why they are considering bringing charges of a "hoax bomb", or sent this letter home with the other students: http://www.irvingisd.net/cms/lib010/TX01917973/Centricity/Do... [PDF] Therefore, malice.

I'd like to jump on the back of this and make the point that, referring to the clock project in question, it seems a lie to label the item as a "hoax bomb" as if it were actually intended to even be a bomb, let alone an article of the hoax variety. Not to mention the obvious claim of guilt by association that the prosecuting argument seems to imply, I would add that it also useful to distinguish the reality of the si…

They never thought it was real, or they would have evacuated the school.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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There is likely more to this story. I'm basing this on 3 facts: 1. In 2015 it's highly unlikely that you could build a home-made clock that would be of the size and shape resembling a bomb - that is, unless it was made to look like a bomb. 2. Ahmed, his father, and anyone else with a phone camera (that is on Ahmed's side) would have posted a picture of the clock, or given a full description of it (size, shape, etc),…

Sad that you're being downvoted (and probably flagged) for expressing a reasonable opinion.

Hacker News has been a left-wing echo chamber ever since the crazies started flowing in during that period when every story on the front page was NSA related.

Now it's nearly impossible to have a reasoned discussion on any non-technical issue without SJWs using the voting system here to silence dissent.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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That's not even the issue to me. It's like fine you "suspected" it. How difficult was it to not suspect it anymore? Like did the arrest and the accusations need to happen. It's almost like attempting to traumatize the kid and his peers for no good reason and for what? Security theater? Because he was brown or a Muslim and did not know that brown or Muslim people should not bring electronics that might be suspected wi…

It's almost like attempting to traumatize the kid and his peers for no good reason and for what? That's pretty simple -- their "authority" depends on never, ever, admitting that they were wrong.

The response is pretty simple. If they can never, ever admit they were wrong, we need to deprive them of their "authority".

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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"I recommend using this opportunity to talk with your child about the Student Code of Conduct and specifically not bringing items to school that are prohibited ." As a parent, can I see the list of "items... that are prohibited"? I'd be pretty shocked if "clock" is actually on there.

That's the crazy part to me. They still seem to think and act as if it was a bomb.

Relevant Rick and Morty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d6qDcPz7Uo

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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This whole situation screams a breach of the poor boy's liberties. According to TEX. FAM. CODE §51.095 [1]: In order for a custodial written statement to be admissible, the following sequence of events must occur: 1) the officer must take the child to a magistrate; 2) the magistrate must then inform the child of his rights to remain silent, to have an attorney appointed and present during questioning and to terminate…

What I have heard from similar cases previously is that in a school you basically have no rights. Previous cases the school has been determined to be within their legal rights when doing things like this(including involving the police). I don't know much more than that though.

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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These topics bring the tin foil wearers out in droves. No, the government isn't cracking down on the intelligence of youth, it requires it to progress and grow. I don't recall any black SUVs outside my door when I built an alarm clock that had selective electronic outputs for my school project. Hell, my teachers docked marks because I didn't take it far enough and they felt I could add more features and better design…

You're contradicting yourself there. When you were young, it was fine. This chap does basically the exact same thing, and he's arrested.

If my 17-year-old brother did the same thing, he wouldn't be arrested.

But my 17-year-old brother doesn't live under a racist cloud of "probably a terrorist."

Re: 14-Year-Old Boy Arrested for Bringing Homemade Clock to School

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Hanlon's razor is a pretty stupid quote here, there definitely is no need to distinguish stupidity from malice here. The people responsible for this mess should probably lose their jobs. (Based on the story as it was presented here)

Yes but should the be fired on account of malice or stupidity? (Both valid causes for firing)

How about just "misconduct"
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