>“The difficulty is getting enough teachers who are trained in it, and trained well enough to make it a good introduction to computer science,” said Barbara Ericson, the director of computing outreach at Georgia Tech’s College of Computing. “And if you are well-trained in computer science, you can make a lot more money in industry than teaching.” Seems to be the real problem here. What kind of negative effect might r…
New York Mayor De Blasio to Require Computer Science in Schools
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#12* Getting a little exposure to it is wonderful and valuable for all. But I believe that being good at computer science requires having some skill at a type of abstract thinking that many people, even otherwise really intelligent people, don't possess. If this ever becomes mandatory for all students, I believe that it will be a recipe for a lot of wasted time and frustration. * If it ever becomes mandatory, I also won…
Re: New York Mayor De Blasio to Require Computer Science in Schools
#13How about just getting kids to pass basic Math and English courses first.
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#14Re: New York Mayor De Blasio to Require Computer Science in Schools
#15I imagine most of us programming now will be dead by the time (if at all) programming reaches some kind of universal acceptance; think of how long it took for literacy to become universally important, even though reading and writing was done centuries before Gutenberg. 20 years ago, learning programming wasn't as important because the technology just wasn't there to make it a good return on investment. But the value…
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I mean, how do you even convince someone that learning to program is a good idea if it takes jumping through many serious hoops just to set up? The majority of interaction with computers is with locked-down mobile devices. Contrast this with home computers in the 80s that were practically begging to be programmed as they came with little other than a built-in interpreter, or the early days of the PC where user magazines had source code - in assembly language - that people could enter in DEBUG and create small but useful programs.
The walled gardens of app stores have also grown to the point where simply sharing an executable with someone has become an almost taboo act, with some central authority telling the users who to trust.
It's in the interests of the software industry to keep the majority of users computer-illiterate, so they can be profited from. On the other hand, basic literacy is valued by the industry, because it makes it easier to persuade users who know how to read and write (adverts wouldn't work if people couldn't read them...)
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#16Re: New York Mayor De Blasio to Require Computer Science in Schools
#17The original title "De Blasio to Announce 10-Year Deadline to Offer Computer Science to All Students" is a better headline. Of note in the article, "Computer science will not become a graduation requirement, and middle and high schools may choose to offer it only as an elective." This is quite different than the HN modified title.
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#18>“The difficulty is getting enough teachers who are trained in it, and trained well enough to make it a good introduction to computer science,” said Barbara Ericson, the director of computing outreach at Georgia Tech’s College of Computing. “And if you are well-trained in computer science, you can make a lot more money in industry than teaching.” Seems to be the real problem here. What kind of negative effect might r…
The negative effect would be kids with a poor understanding of CS, which is still a step up from kids with no understanding of CS.