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Jack Ma: 'Harvard rejected me 10 times' [video]

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#11

In my opinion elite universities are more for traditional career paths. They are nothing for entrepeneurs. You waste too much time with exams. There should be an opportunity to get credits for entrepeneurial work at university. Edit: I am engineering alumnus of a so called elite university in germany and struggled much with exams because I just wanted to do more practical work which one can sell.

It's called an 'honorary degree.'

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#12
Classical education is DEAD. I see this worldwide and there're countless examples about it. 1. Smart people do not get accepted for various reasons 2. There's no personalization of classes - people are not machines and shouldn't be treated to study the same thing in the same ways. No creativity inspired. 3. Big gap between businesses and universities.

and on and on..

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#13
Colleges such as Harvard that base admissions decisions on grades, standardized test scores, traditional social/leadership signals (club x, sports team y), alumni connections, geographic/ethnic background, and writing/storytelling skills (i.e., the “personal essay”) are going to miss a lot of brilliant, innovative people and future leaders. The 17-year-old Steve Jobs (free spirit), Barack Obama (slacker), and Jack Ma (failed entrance exam) would never be admitted to a place like Harvard, at least as undergraduates.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like calling an old girlfriend just to passive-aggressively tell her you bought a car dealership

No it's like calling up the dealership you applied to (1o times!) in college, to tell them you now own a dealership.

... that dealership.

Re: Jack Ma: 'Harvard rejected me 10 times' [video]

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In my opinion elite universities are more for traditional career paths. They are nothing for entrepeneurs. You waste too much time with exams. There should be an opportunity to get credits for entrepeneurial work at university. Edit: I am engineering alumnus of a so called elite university in germany and struggled much with exams because I just wanted to do more practical work which one can sell.

My sample size is one, but I have a high school friend who went to a top school for college and is now at another one for graduate work

From my more humble vantage point it's been incredibly damaging. He has no social life outside of his career ( basically the people living the same lifestyle) and has been molded to be single mindedly focused on his studies. He's honestly in most ways has because a more dull individual.

(This is kinda funny b/c they were sorta conceived to emulate Oxford and Cambridge - which as I understand are all about he well-rounded "liberal arts eduction")

However that being said, it's hard to argue with the fact that all his colleagues and all the people he meets are incredibly intelligent/hard-working and he in effect has access to the best minds in the world. The fact he is so "networked" mean ofcourse he will always have a very well paying job, and most likely will eventually be in a position of power.

EDIT: A corollary would be that if young Jack Ma went to Harvard, he wouldn't have become current Jack Ma, and would probably be another wealthy lawyer or something

Re: Jack Ma: 'Harvard rejected me 10 times' [video]

#17

In my opinion elite universities are more for traditional career paths. They are nothing for entrepeneurs. You waste too much time with exams. There should be an opportunity to get credits for entrepeneurial work at university. Edit: I am engineering alumnus of a so called elite university in germany and struggled much with exams because I just wanted to do more practical work which one can sell.

Except you can't get a job doing "entrepenuering."

You create companies by doing a lot of hard work yourself which requires — gasp! — traditional skills like working competently, rapidly and playing nicely in groups of other people.

Only after you've started one or two companies yourself do you get elevated to the lofty heights of pure thought leadership where you don't have to work and people still want to employ you to "lead" them.

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It's kind of funny how people who have made it as big as Jack Ma are still obsessed enough with Harvard to mention almost as a badge of honor that they were rejected from Harvard. As if to say "see Harvard was obviously wrong here". Harvard or any top school in no way can accept anywhere near all of the applicants that are qualified to attend those schools. As such there will be people that will be rejected and accep…

I guess he wants to stress that having a degree from Harvard is not as important as one might think. In his case, I guess it was the hardships that took him to the heights; maybe the Harvard degree would not have been any good for him.

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post #12

Classical education is DEAD. I see this worldwide and there're countless examples about it. 1. Smart people do not get accepted for various reasons 2. There's no personalization of classes - people are not machines and shouldn't be treated to study the same thing in the same ways. No creativity inspired. 3. Big gap between businesses and universities. and on and on..

> Classical education is DEAD for outstanding individuals.

Fixed that for you. The vast majority of people are not outstanding.

Re: Jack Ma: 'Harvard rejected me 10 times' [video]

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In my opinion elite universities are more for traditional career paths. They are nothing for entrepeneurs. You waste too much time with exams. There should be an opportunity to get credits for entrepeneurial work at university. Edit: I am engineering alumnus of a so called elite university in germany and struggled much with exams because I just wanted to do more practical work which one can sell.

"They are nothing for entrepeneurs. (sic)"

Well the exception to that is that having an elite university degree can definitely help getting taken more seriously when fund raising, hiring employees, and gaining customers (as I have found out from personal experience).

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