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Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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Does the person have to (legally) accept that you ask questions about them ? I know I would not feel comfortable about someone asking questions about me to my previous roommates and I wouldn't give information about them to a third party.

I hope so, and I would probably rule out any future roommates who ask me to do this in addition to checks that landlords already run.

Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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post #12

How did the "hacking" world go from "Let's organize and make accessible all of the world's information." to "Let's make a couple of phone calls to people you don't know" ?

Didn't it start from ""Let's make a couple of phone calls to people you don't know" (and/or "people you know")?

Back when it was still called "phreaking".

"Let's organize and make accessible all of the world's information" sounds like Xanadu's, Google's or a librarian's goal, not the "hacking worlds" in general...

Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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post #4

This strikes me as odd: is it cultural? In my experience, people choose to live with friends. If they can't do that, they ask their friends for recommendations. And if they can't do that, they try very hard to live alone, in a closet if necessary, until they can make some friends. The ways somebody can be a good or bad apartment-mate go much further than anything that I imagine can be discovered by a third party maki…

>In my experience, people choose to live with friends. If they can't do that, they ask their friends for recommendations. And if they can't do that, they try very hard to live alone, in a closet if necessary, until they can make some friends.

Not sure were you're getting that. People live with unknown (before) roomates etc all the time.

I know it for a fact all over Europe, especially for younger people and Europe, but from the media, interviews, biographies and such I know it happens in the US too, to share the rent, etc.

Heck, weren't even a couple episodes of Friends were they were trying to find a new roomate?

Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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We are taking steps, one at a time, towards total authoritarianism.

And site, or 'product', this is one of the steps along the way.

The day we stop trusting random strangers is the day we allow ourselves to become a small part of an authoritarian zeitgeist.

Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of people here in Lisbon - particularly university students, but not only - seek to share apartments because they can't afford anything else; if you make minimum wage, the rent of a reasonable house in the city will easily eat 3/5 of your salary. We rent rooms in a couple of 3-bedroom houses and, as far as I know, our renters aren't friend, though they're usually friendly, they don't really socialize. I think…

maybe you misused the words, but are you talking about renting whole HOUSE in largest city & capital of a western europe country? Places like that I've been, normal people (not on minimal wage, rather average salaries) cannot afford renting a proper house in the city even if they give out full single salary. Edge if the city yes, but anything usable in the city - nope.

Depends which Western European country you mean. In lots of countries you can rent a "whole house" (whole appartment I mean) quite easily in the city if you're employeed and not on minimum wage.

In Berlin, for example, rents have been notoriously low (something like €500 would get you an appartment: http://berlin.en.craigslist.de/search/apa ), but also in many other cities.

Also in some cities the "city center" or parts of it has low rent because of many immigrants or things like that, and more wealthy people live for other parts/suburbs.

Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of people here in Lisbon - particularly university students, but not only - seek to share apartments because they can't afford anything else; if you make minimum wage, the rent of a reasonable house in the city will easily eat 3/5 of your salary. We rent rooms in a couple of 3-bedroom houses and, as far as I know, our renters aren't friend, though they're usually friendly, they don't really socialize. I think…

maybe you misused the words, but are you talking about renting whole HOUSE in largest city & capital of a western europe country? Places like that I've been, normal people (not on minimal wage, rather average salaries) cannot afford renting a proper house in the city even if they give out full single salary. Edge if the city yes, but anything usable in the city - nope.

Yeah, here it's still possible to find 1-bedroom apartments inside the city for ~400€/m (our average salary is ~900€/m, by the way). Rarely in the centre, but still inside the city proper. If you're willing to commute 20km or more, you can get something decent for Of course, this is just the rent, not utilities & etc.

EDIT: Yes, by "house" I mean "apartment".

Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of people here in Lisbon - particularly university students, but not only - seek to share apartments because they can't afford anything else; if you make minimum wage, the rent of a reasonable house in the city will easily eat 3/5 of your salary. We rent rooms in a couple of 3-bedroom houses and, as far as I know, our renters aren't friend, though they're usually friendly, they don't really socialize. I think…

maybe you misused the words, but are you talking about renting whole HOUSE in largest city & capital of a western europe country? Places like that I've been, normal people (not on minimal wage, rather average salaries) cannot afford renting a proper house in the city even if they give out full single salary. Edge if the city yes, but anything usable in the city - nope.

A "house" in many (older) european cities is often just a small slice of the buildings on a road - more or less the size of a flat, just a vertical slice instead of horizontal. So renting a full house is not exactly uncommon and does not necessarily indicate a large and spacious accomodation.

Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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post #14
post #4

This strikes me as odd: is it cultural? In my experience, people choose to live with friends. If they can't do that, they ask their friends for recommendations. And if they can't do that, they try very hard to live alone, in a closet if necessary, until they can make some friends. The ways somebody can be a good or bad apartment-mate go much further than anything that I imagine can be discovered by a third party maki…

> In my experience, people choose to live with friends. If they can't do that, they ask their friends for recommendations. And if they can't do that, they try very hard to live alone, in a closet if necessary, until they can make some friends. Not sure were you're getting that. People live with unknown (before) roomates etc all the time. I know it for a fact all over Europe, especially for younger people and Europe,…

I think its a particularly American affliction: to know ones roommates in advance. Perhaps its an artifact from the formative years, where the shock of living with a stranger is learned for the first time, and subsequent entrance into society is predicated with a desire to not have "a roommate experience which sucked".

In Europe, the roommate experience just sucks - from the get-go - because nobody wants a roommate, really. Americans, unwilling to fess up to this fact, seem to have created machinations designed to facilitate this ease.

Re: Assuredly – Live with People You Trust

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In my experience, people choose to live with friends. If they can't do that, they ask their friends for recommendations. And if they can't do that, they try very hard to live alone, in a closet if necessary, until they can make some friends. Not sure were you're getting that. People live with unknown (before) roomates etc all the time. I know it for a fact all over Europe, especially for younger people and Europe,…

I think its a particularly American affliction: to know ones roommates in advance. Perhaps its an artifact from the formative years, where the shock of living with a stranger is learned for the first time, and subsequent entrance into society is predicated with a desire to not have "a roommate experience which sucked". In Europe, the roommate experience just sucks - from the get-go - because nobody wants a roommate,…

I'm In Boston and most folks I know who live with roommates found them through posts online. People who knew their roommates before living with them are definitely the exception, not the norm.
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