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Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
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Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a difference between a chemical analogue and an alternative way of producing the same chemical. Glucose is still glucose whether it comes from sugar cane, corn, beets, or other sources.
Marijuana is more than just THC.
Yes, it's a variety of ingredients, but while medically-used THC comes from a cannabis plant, it's often been purified so much that it's still only THC.
Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#33I don't see how this is superior to having the plant itself create THC which is much simpler and cheaper. Other than being a cool trick, how is this going to change the world, as the article claims? It really doesn't specify how the THC produced from yeast is any better or different than that produced from the plant. Can yeast production be scaled up in ways that plat production can't? Or is it just that it might be…
There was a SF author (Bear or Brin?) who wrote an essay back in the 90's about the future of drug wars. Much of the enforcement back then was on stopping the import of drugs from overseas. But once gene splicing created a way to produce the drugs within the USA, the enforce would switch to raiding warehouses, etc. The next step would be when the technology reduced the drug manufacture to a table top box that could be in any home (think make your own insulin). Then the enforcement has to raid peoples homes. The last step is when the technology allows the drugs to be produced by symbionts growing within a person.
Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#34> European regulators, he said, are eager for a way to create a steady supply of THC and other cannabinoids without actually cultivating marijuana. “They are in fear that these plants will be grown and will support some illegal farming,” So the regulators are eager to flood the market with GMO THC, so they can stop people from growing their own organic THC? Sounds like they just want to commercialize & control it.
They can't do it;), my friend (Anson Parker) owns a patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/US20090042974
"It is the ambition and intention of authors that tactical usage of this broad-sweeping technique may rapidly and at low cost satisfy a global demand in what may be termed a “grass-roots” bio-engineering project worthy of the 3rd Millennium; bringing to fruition micro-mass-productivity. "
And he still makes the news: http://www.c-ville.com/ansons-crawl-city-council-candidate-d...
Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#35> European regulators, he said, are eager for a way to create a steady supply of THC and other cannabinoids without actually cultivating marijuana. “They are in fear that these plants will be grown and will support some illegal farming,” So the regulators are eager to flood the market with GMO THC, so they can stop people from growing their own organic THC? Sounds like they just want to commercialize & control it.
They can't do it;), my friend (Anson Parker) owns a patent: http://www.google.com/patents/US20090042974 "It is the ambition and intention of authors that tactical usage of this broad-sweeping technique may rapidly and at low cost satisfy a global demand in what may be termed a “grass-roots” bio-engineering project worthy of the 3rd Millennium; bringing to fruition micro-mass-productivity. " And he still makes the new…
Sorry, but I'm going to be "that guy", because someone is inevitably going to say "you can't patent that!", and there is generally a lot of misinformation about patents on HN. That particular document is a published patent application, and not a granted patent. You can tell on Google Patents in the field on the right that says: "Publication type: Application".
Moreover, using USPTO Pair[0], you can check the status of such patents, and it turns out that this one has been abandoned since 2011 for failure to respond to the Patent Examiner. So no, there is no patent on this (at least, not the one you pointed to).
[0] Publicly available database by USPTO: http://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair
Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#36My lifelong dream of THC sourdough is now one step closer.
Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#37I don't see how this is superior to having the plant itself create THC which is much simpler and cheaper. Other than being a cool trick, how is this going to change the world, as the article claims? It really doesn't specify how the THC produced from yeast is any better or different than that produced from the plant. Can yeast production be scaled up in ways that plat production can't? Or is it just that it might be…
> I don't see how this is superior to having the plant itself create THC which is much simpler and cheaper.
The plant is simpler and cheaper now; this looks like it is in the early stages. The yeasts cannot make THC from just simple, readily available precursors like sugars, and the yields are low, according to the article. But imagine if this is improved. Suppose that THC yeast could be improved so that making large amounts of THC with yeast is as simple as making CO2 in a loaf of bread. Just feed sugars and watch it multiply, then collect the THC.
> how is this going to change the world
If a THC "super yeast" is developed, it will be hard for the authorities to control trafficking, for one thing.
> How the THC produced from yeast is any better or different than that produced from the plant.
THC is THC. It's a compound. If it looks like this molecule picture:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol
it's THC, whether it came from camel's ear wax, or a cannabis plant.
Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
They can't do it;), my friend (Anson Parker) owns a patent: http://www.google.com/patents/US20090042974 "It is the ambition and intention of authors that tactical usage of this broad-sweeping technique may rapidly and at low cost satisfy a global demand in what may be termed a “grass-roots” bio-engineering project worthy of the 3rd Millennium; bringing to fruition micro-mass-productivity. " And he still makes the new…
Sorry, but I'm going to be "that guy", because someone is inevitably going to say "you can't patent that!", and there is generally a lot of misinformation about patents on HN. That particular document is a published patent application, and not a granted patent. You can tell on Google Patents in the field on the right that says: "Publication type: Application". Moreover, using USPTO Pair[0], you can check the status o…
Thanks. Considering it was more of a prank from the beginning I am not surprised to see it abandoned ;)
Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#39I don't see how this is superior to having the plant itself create THC which is much simpler and cheaper. Other than being a cool trick, how is this going to change the world, as the article claims? It really doesn't specify how the THC produced from yeast is any better or different than that produced from the plant. Can yeast production be scaled up in ways that plat production can't? Or is it just that it might be…
> I don't see how this is superior to having the plant itself create THC which is much simpler and cheaper. The plant is simpler and cheaper now ; this looks like it is in the early stages. The yeasts cannot make THC from just simple, readily available precursors like sugars, and the yields are low, according to the article. But imagine if this is improved. Suppose that THC yeast could be improved so that making larg…
The plant is simpler and cheaper now
I don't know, it's hard to imagine anything being cheaper than large-scale hemp farming. It's a very strong crop that grows in most parts of the world and can survive a lot of hardship. And the yield is very high, my quick estimate indicates about 300 lbs/acre/yr of THC extract. Assuming that the production cost is similar to that of corn, it should cost about 200 USD/acre/yr.
I find it hard to conceive that yeast could cultivate a pound of THC for less than a dollar.
THC is THC. It's a compound.
True. But what matters here are the impurities. Synthetic THC medications like Marinol are associated with side effects not found in patients using Marijuana. They're both the same THC, but made through different processes and therefore with different impurities. Maybe there's some nasty trace impurity in Marinol, or maybe some of the other cannabinoids in cannabis counteract these side effects.
Re: Newly Risen from Yeast: THC
#40I don't see how this is superior to having the plant itself create THC which is much simpler and cheaper. Other than being a cool trick, how is this going to change the world, as the article claims? It really doesn't specify how the THC produced from yeast is any better or different than that produced from the plant. Can yeast production be scaled up in ways that plat production can't? Or is it just that it might be…
There was a SF author (Bear or Brin?) who wrote an essay back in the 90's about the future of drug wars. Much of the enforcement back then was on stopping the import of drugs from overseas. But once gene splicing created a way to produce the drugs within the USA, the enforce would switch to raiding warehouses, etc. The next step would be when the technology reduced the drug manufacture to a table top box that could b…
There's a guy with ethanol producing yeast in his intestines.