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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

Wow! Spot on!

Its funny, at the presentation they mentioned the cover and how the magnets transfer input from the keyboard to the computer as if it was a revolutionary idea. Then again, it is Apple. They can come out with a bottle water product and swoon the masses.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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I own a Surface Pro 3 and I will be buying an iPad pro. The Surface Pro 3 for Visual Studio, and the iPad Pro for music production. The markets are completely different.

That's interesting to me. What does the iPad Pro give you for music production that a Mac with Logic (or your DAW of choice, whichever) doesn't do better? Even if you want touch controls, I've found a regular iPad to be plenty big enough for Logic Remote/TouchOSC/Lemur, and it talks to a much smarter, much more featureful system.

Portability. I have the Mac with Logic but even sitting in bed the iPad is an easier tool to sketch out ideas.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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This comment is exactly why HN won't never understand anything about Apple announcements. Highly technical folks, unable to get out of their technical bias, reprimanding the extremely successful decision makers of a successful company because they pretend to know the matter, while completely ignoring the real world scenarios that actually drive Apple products sales.

It is not a "technical bias", it is more your bias towards Apple. Take the last year's iPhone 6 as an example: HN members complained about small screen sizes for a long time, and it took Steve Job's death to actually make that happen, but gues what? iPhone 6 is most succesfull iPhone ever. Apple did some innovations few years ago (original iPhone, iPad), but since then most of new features in Apple products are taken…

iPhone 6 is most succesfull iPhone ever.

Hasn't every iPhone been the most successful iPhone ever?

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I don't know what you had to deal with regarding PCI or HIPAA but if the endpoint is in scope you have whole chapters about how you should "secure" it, same goes for remote access (VPN, Jump boxes etc.). If the endpoint was in scope I would like to see the QSA that signed an AOC/ROC which stated that the endpoints weren't secured...

The endpoints don't need to be in scope if they're not storing PII.

PCI-DSS the endpoints you use to connect to the CHD environment are in scope, other endpoints that are used to interact with CHD data e.g. POI's or CS terminals are also in scope.

HIPAA endpoints that are used to access, view or input patient data are in scope.

I am a QSA.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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post #860

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What do you mean by "Pro" apps? Photoshop? Illustrator? Premiere? After Effects? Autocad? 3DS Max? Eclipse? Netbeans? IntelliJ? Visual Studio? AFAIK mobile OSes don't have "Pro" apps, just niche apps, and unless those niche apps use ARM assembly or something that an x86 wouldn't run at native speed, you should have no issues.

The discussion here is about the availability of software for Pro tablets - specifically the iPad Pro, and the Surface Pro 3. You have correctly established that the Surface Pro 3 can run Android apps very well. I was curious about why it's valuable to run Android apps on a Pro tablet, or whether it's just a curiosity for running phone apps. If there was an important pro app that ran on android tablets that was made…

The point about having an hybrid device is that you can use it in different ways, ex. as a laptop when you are doing productive work, or as a tablet when you just want to relax and check social networks or play some games. You don't need to purchase 2 different devices.

The fact that you are using a "pro" device doesn't mean you wouldn't want to use "non-pro" apps, and having a full-featured Android subsystem (which emulates ARM if needed) is a good advantage when you want to use apps that don't exist in the Windows market, or want to use your previous purchases in markets like Amazon or Google Play.

Remember that several companies just focus in releasing iOS and Android apps and fall back to the web version for desptop, which usually is not optimized with a touch-friendly workflow.

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So 3D Touch is something Android has? This is mostly a tongue-in-cheek comment, but the broader point is that of course Apple has "innovated" since the original iPhone, iPad, iWhatever. In some big ways, and in some small ways. But so have other players in the industry. Apple has borrowed some good ideas from them, just as they have borrowed good ideas from Apple. However saying Apple hasn't innovated since those ori…

Actually... It does. Huawei did a demo about it a few months ago. http://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-s-force-touch-ha... It's okay to live inside a ecosystem, but don't pretend to know what happens outside it.

Huawei did a demo few months ago?

I didn't know IFA 2015 was few months ago.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Sadly" (or not) the compliance requirements for mobile vs PC's are completely fubar. If you run under any regulation (PCI-DSS, HIPAA etc.) your PC will have to be hardened, have anti-virus, full disk encryption, 2 factor auth for remote connection and tick every other possible "security" box to be compliant. Mobile well it's easy just have an MDM and do what ever the fuck you want, so if you want to use your laptop…

I've had to deal with both HIPAA and PCI-DSS and in both cases if the sensitive data is all stored within the web app, and the authentication to the web app is good and communication to the web app is encrypted, you do not have to secure the endpoint. Both of those are about securing the sensitive data, and keeping sensitive data off the endpoint is a perfectly valid method of doing so.

You received bad advice.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Actually... It does. Huawei did a demo about it a few months ago. http://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-s-force-touch-ha... It's okay to live inside a ecosystem, but don't pretend to know what happens outside it.

There's a world of difference between a demo – and an 'very limited indeed' implementation, and a flagship feature supported at a deep level by the OS. Force touch on Android will never get anywhere until it's specifically supported by Google (who unless I'm mistaken, haven't included it in M), and the install rate is high enough to make it worthwhile. I'm sure more OEMs will include it, but individually they won't h…

I have NFC (Galaxy S4) and never used it to pay, still would miss it. You can easily send links or photos, I did this a while back with a friend who has a SONY Z3 and it worked flawlessly. Also I can pair my wireless headset with my phone using NFC.

I can use Google Pay in the future with my over 2 years old device. Apple users have to buy a new iPhone for that.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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The discussion here is about the availability of software for Pro tablets - specifically the iPad Pro, and the Surface Pro 3. You have correctly established that the Surface Pro 3 can run Android apps very well. I was curious about why it's valuable to run Android apps on a Pro tablet, or whether it's just a curiosity for running phone apps. If there was an important pro app that ran on android tablets that was made…

The point about having an hybrid device is that you can use it in different ways, ex. as a laptop when you are doing productive work, or as a tablet when you just want to relax and check social networks or play some games. You don't need to purchase 2 different devices. The fact that you are using a "pro" device doesn't mean you wouldn't want to use "non-pro" apps, and having a full-featured Android subsystem (which…

If your argument is that the ability to run android apps gives surface an advantage over iPad pro because of access to non-pro tablet apps, this makes no sense at all. The iPad has a better library of non-pro tablet apps by far.

The only question is which device is better for running tablet apps aimed at Pros. I think that is currently open to debate, but Android isn't even a player, so running Android apps is no advantage.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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That's interesting to me. What does the iPad Pro give you for music production that a Mac with Logic (or your DAW of choice, whichever) doesn't do better? Even if you want touch controls, I've found a regular iPad to be plenty big enough for Logic Remote/TouchOSC/Lemur, and it talks to a much smarter, much more featureful system.

Portability. I have the Mac with Logic but even sitting in bed the iPad is an easier tool to sketch out ideas.

Fair enough. I don't see it replacing my MBP for noodling, but I also don't mess with that stuff in bed. =)
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