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Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

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Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

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Post by zamalek »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #6
robbrown451 wrote: post #3

I'm really trying to see this as a positive. Sorry, but I just can't do it.

No need. The Unicode Consortium is not a therapeutic institution. It's about humans and their language, not about happiness. The Unicode Consortium is a non-profit corporation devoted to developing, maintaining, and promoting software internationalization standards and data, particularly the Unicode Standard, which specifies the representation of text in all modern software products and standards. The Unicode Consort…

> It's about humans and their language

Particularly relevant because e.g.:

* is offensive in Brazil.

* is offensive in the middle-east.

Unicode assigns numbers to the symbols. Humans assign meanings to the symbols.

Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

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Post by shellac »

flurdy wrote: post #13

And the V sign is there but the reverse two fingered salute is not. Though perhaps that would lead to too much confusion and accidental offense between cultures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#As_an_insult

Au contraire:

U+1F594

Unfortunately they name it 'REVERSED VICTORY HAND', which might get people in trouble.

Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

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Post by mmahemoff »

flurdy wrote: post #13

And the V sign is there but the reverse two fingered salute is not. Though perhaps that would lead to too much confusion and accidental offense between cultures. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#As_an_insult

Likewise, perhaps the most famous and heretofore controversial Emoji - "Smiling Poop Emoji" - symbolises good luck in the home of Emoji. http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/24687/1/w...

Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

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Post by masklinn »

wodenokoto wrote: post #15
Drakim wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, that makes a lot more sense! I thought we had people sitting around talking about what funny picture to put in Unicode next. It's much more understandable if it's something that already exists that's being "ported in".

I think we have that now. The Japanese emoji that have been standardized are kindda culturally skewed, but suddenly became very available world wide and a lot of people around the world want their culture to be represented equally. Hence the whole skin color deal.

And flags. The original japanese emoji set only has 10 country flags (japan, korea, germany, china, USA, france, spain, italy, russia and the UK), the Unicode consortium added 26 REGIONAL INDICATOR symbols used in pairs to encode territorial flags using CLDR region subtags e.g. U+1F1FA REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER U followed by U+ 1F1F8 REGIONAL INDICATOR SYMBOL LETTER S => 🇺🇸 (USA flag)

Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

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Post by aaron695 »

This is a symbol that will be used 10s of millions of times in the next few years. If not much much more.

The fact it's even in discussion if it should be there is a huge free flow of speech rights issue.

I'd like to think if you're on hn you see the problems around the fact this was not there years ago.

I want a world were people can communicate exactly as they wish. Not by a standard, especially a standard with morals thrown in.

Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

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Post by aaron695 »

This is a symbol that will be used 10s of millions of times in the next few years. If not much much more.

The fact it's even in discussion if it should be there is a huge free flow of speech rights issue.

I'd like to think if you're on hn you see the problems around the fact this was not there years ago.

I want a world were people can communicate exactly as they wish. Not by a standard

Re: Finally, it will be possible to flip someone off via emoji

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Post by omginternets »

aaron695 wrote: post #27

This is a symbol that will be used 10s of millions of times in the next few years. If not much much more. The fact it's even in discussion if it should be there is a huge free flow of speech rights issue. I'd like to think if you're on hn you see the problems around the fact this was not there years ago. I want a world were people can communicate exactly as they wish. Not by a standard, especially a standard with mor…

I don't disagree with the premise that free speech is important, but it's hard to argue that the absence of a middle-finger emoji is preventing people from being nasty to each other on the internet.

This changes nothing of consequence (but I personally see no reason not to include it).

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