Ask HN: Where to move within US? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Post by skyflashings » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 9:56 PM UTC

cweagans wrote: post #29

Boise, ID. Very, very cheap to rent anything (whatever you're thinking for an amount that's "very cheap", cut it in half and you can probably find something nice around Boise for that amount). Groceries are pretty inexpensive, and everyone is very friendly. Cable One has 100Mbps connections for $100/mo ($75/mo for first three), and the schools are adequate if you're willing to encourage your kids to learn more and be…

How are employment opportunities in Boise? Only companies I'm aware of are Micron and HP.

Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Post by plumr » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 11:07 PM UTC

codegeek wrote: post #2

Cannot edit the text anymore. Just wanted to mention that I have a bootstrapped product that I run and ideally would love to stay closer to startup ecosystem. Of course, California is out of question again due to the excessive cost of living.

It really depends on where in California. The Bay Area is exorbitant but Sacramento is quite reasonable in comparison. It has good schools and it's a 90 min drive to San Francisco. And I do mean drive... public transportation between metropolitan areas in CA is pretty much useless.

But beware, the summers are hot, and quite long. We are in currently the middle of a 4-day 100°+ heat wave. The winters are way milder than you have seen in NJ, some frost early in the morning but no snow.

Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Post by read » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 12:19 PM UTC

codegeek wrote: post #2

Cannot edit the text anymore. Just wanted to mention that I have a bootstrapped product that I run and ideally would love to stay closer to startup ecosystem. Of course, California is out of question again due to the excessive cost of living.

What convinced you California is out of the question?

If anything was possible, would you want to live in the Bay area, find a co-founder, and grow the bootstrapped product into a company?

I say this because your comment is contradictory. You "just" wanted to mention something important to you that may be frightening. And then you doubled up trying to convince us the entire of California, which includes the expensive Bay Area and all the other inexpensive areas, is "out of the question".

I think you want to start a company, and it's frightening as it should be.

You only live once. The choice is yours.

Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Post by madcaptenor » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 8:02 PM UTC

draw_down wrote: post #25

madcaptenor wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in the Atlanta area. I could literally have the same job in the SF area (where I used to live) for 20% more - my company has an office in Palo Alto where there are people with the same job title and the same responsibilities. However this would more than be eaten up by the increased cost of housing. Say my take-home pay is 100 arbitrary units; my housing costs about 20, leaving 80 for everything else. In the B…

20% bump is surprising, my company has an SF office and I've been told that as a rule, salaries are twice what we get in Portland. However I still feel that increase would be eaten up by housing costs.

These salaries are supposedly tied to the cost of labor in various markets, and we're a large enough company that they do a lot of surveys of economic conditions, what competitors are paying, etc. to set salary bands. But the cost of the sort of technical labor we're talking about here might vary more between SF and other markets than the general cost of labor.

Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Post by madcaptenor » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 8:07 PM UTC

brudgers wrote: post #26

With two toddlers, public schools may be something worth considering. In both Florida and Georgia all school districts are at the county level. [1] This means that even the best local public schools are subject to county politics in regard to funding and curriculum and staffing. Consequently, while a particular school can do some things via PTA, there isn't really fine grained local control [e.g. people can't choose…

In Georgia _most_ school districts are at the county level. But in some cases a city has a school district independent of the surrounding county - often if not always this is the county seat. In the Atlanta area, at least, Atlanta, Decatur, and Marietta have separate schools from the surrounding counties. (In the case of Decatur, this fact explains a lot of the higher property values there compared to adjacent unincorporated areas of DeKalb County.)

Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Post by gautamnarula » Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 8:48 PM UTC

Don't move to Georgia (I assume when considering Georgia you meant Atlanta or suburb of Atlanta).

Pros: Low cost of living, lots of space relative to other places, people are probably friendlier than they are in NJ.

Cons: Traffic is absolutely horrendous (only LA has worse traffic), high crime (in the city--it varies by suburb), really hot and humid summers, terrible mass transit (combine that with terrible, terrible traffic...), backward politics (I'm saying that not as a conservative or liberal, but rather as an observer. In 2012, the GA Secretary of State basically openly endorsed the idea that Obama may not have been born in America...), bad schools.

The tech scene is decent thanks to Georgia Tech. But you can do better than here.

Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Post by gesman » Sat, Sep 12, 2015, 3:43 AM UTC

I just moved to CA, Bay area and the whole climate here is insanely healthy.

I am running 7 miles at the morning before going to work. I never did it in my life before. Ever. And I'm 51.

Then whole day just flows. I thought it's Thursday but apparently it's Friday already.

Something is in the air here. Something really good.

Re: Ask HN: Where to move within US?

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Post by cweagans » Sun, Sep 13, 2015, 4:53 PM UTC

skyflashings wrote: post #31

cweagans wrote: post #29

Boise, ID. Very, very cheap to rent anything (whatever you're thinking for an amount that's "very cheap", cut it in half and you can probably find something nice around Boise for that amount). Groceries are pretty inexpensive, and everyone is very friendly. Cable One has 100Mbps connections for $100/mo ($75/mo for first three), and the schools are adequate if you're willing to encourage your kids to learn more and be…

How are employment opportunities in Boise? Only companies I'm aware of are Micron and HP.

There's a ton of smaller tech companies here. Balihoo, Clearwater Analytics, FFW, Bodybuilding.com to name a few. I've lived here all of my professional life and haven't ever had a problem finding work (either local or remote).