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Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by tcdent » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:38 PM UTC

melling wrote: post #4

pavel_lishin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if it really matters with your eyes vs. your hands and fingers. Flicking your gaze around the keyboard seems much easier than moving your fingers around - you'll never have two fingers hitting each other. And on the other end of the speed spectrum, it seems like it's unlikely that this will ever quite be as quick as operating even a QWERTY keyboard with fully functional hands.

This tool is for people who can't use their hands, of course. For the average person, we're pretty close to being able to use voice instead of typing. https://www.extrahop.com/blog/2014/programming-by-voice-stay... http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/using_voice_to_code.html Throw in eye tracking and precise gestures ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QNiZfSsPc0 ) and the keyboard isn't necessary.

Instead of coming home from the office with Carpal Tunnel we'll be coming home with hoarse voices. Color me skeptical.

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by dageshi » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:38 PM UTC

dev1n wrote: post #8

dageshi wrote: post #5

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3ke7ug/eye_tra... A lot of interesting information from the author over there. META: Interesting to note how much cool stuff is turning up on reddit first before it appears here... I feel like it used to be the other way around.

Re: META People will stop posting to a community when they feel their posts aren't up to what they believe the community tends to accept as Par for the course.

That's my impression as well.

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by sanqui » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:42 PM UTC

I wonder if a version of this for mobile phones could make typing on a phone faster than fumbling with a touch screen.

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by samstave » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:42 PM UTC

dageshi wrote: post #5

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3ke7ug/eye_tra... A lot of interesting information from the author over there. META: Interesting to note how much cool stuff is turning up on reddit first before it appears here... I feel like it used to be the other way around.

Interestingly, as soon as I saw this post on reddit I PMd Julius to please post to HN.

Then I came to HN and searched for optikey and I just found this and several other threads by others...

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by samstave » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:43 PM UTC

dageshi wrote: post #5

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/3ke7ug/eye_tra... A lot of interesting information from the author over there. META: Interesting to note how much cool stuff is turning up on reddit first before it appears here... I feel like it used to be the other way around.

Also... That reinforces "front page of the Internet"

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by andhess » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:44 PM UTC

You should take a look at EyeFluence - they have developed some incredible techniques to type with your eyes using non-dwell methods.

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by samstave » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:45 PM UTC

kozukumi wrote: post #7

From the get started page "If you are unsure which computer/laptop/tablet to purchase and are considering spending a lot of money then please email me - I can offer personal advice on how to target the sweet spot between cost and performance (and screen size)." So not only is he giving away this amazing software but he is also offering free, personal advice on what you need to buy working with your budget! Truly an i…

What's amazing is that I could see a cottage industry around this with respect to google glass like overlays that allow for visual navigation of the overlay... I think we have our first entry into the cyberpunk visual navigation future being seeded by this guys great work.

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by samstave » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:47 PM UTC

jasondrowley wrote: post #12

morley wrote: post #6

This could be a really nice keyboard interface for VR too.

It's curious that Optikey was posted today, because yesterday I wrote a post about the promise of iris scanning technology to deliver a seamless payments experience in VR headsets. Unfortunately, none of the VR headsets shipping in the next six months have iris trackers (much less scanners). The only headset I found was Fove, which was successfully kickstarted and ships in 2016. Fove did a promotion with a Japanese s…

Heh. I came to the same conclusion as well re iris tracking, so clearly it's an inspiring work by Julius...

This will explode

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by OptiKey » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:57 PM UTC

richman777 wrote: post #15

aluhut wrote: post #14

Can someone elaborate on the use of eye trackers in dark rooms (rooms lightened by dimmed lights or only the monitor itself)? Does it work?

My mom has ALS and has an eye tracker. The camera is infrared and shows up based on any light in the room. From looking at the tracking software it seems to calculate contrast between the retina and the surrounding eye to track what it is looking at.

That's correct. I find they work better in darker environments. They struggle with direct sunlight as it contains lots of IR light.

Re: OptiKey – Full computer control and speech with your eyes

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Post by exhilaration » Thu, Sep 10, 2015, 7:57 PM UTC

Could this be covered by existing patents? Tools like these for the disabled are a big business, and patent holders have shut down competition in the past: http://www.disabilityscoop.com/2012/06/14/dispute-ipad-app-p...