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I'm Begging for Work

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Re: I'm Begging for Work

#251
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The whole notion of loyalty is insane. It's a contract. It's not a romantic relationship. Any employer that even mentions loyalty deserves to go out of business.

Agreed.

I really wish employers would stop talking about "our culture" also. "Culture" and culture-worship are just another attempt at enforcing loyalty in a world where everyone knows loyalty is dead.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#252
"Why the fuck didn’t he just tell me what I’d be getting from the beginning?"

Because then he'd have been out of a couple of months of cheap labour. You got screwed. He set out to screw you right from the start. It sucks. Not the entire industry is like that, but your boss is clearly an asshole. And worst of it is that there's no way to get payback, because what he did is probably totally legal where you live.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#253

Doesn't this person deserve some form of severance or the equivalent of? It's kind of ridiculous that he was "cut out" from a job like some kind of child who was no longer part of the "club". It's grossly unprofessional to disconnect an employee without any due process or policy. I guess I shouldn't be surprised given the events leading up to the situation.

Welcome to the US... employees have no rights, even to sick time.

Professionalism is a concept that serves mostly to keep employees orderly. There's frequently no real professionalism in one-way relationships.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#254

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He blackmailed his boss, used f* f* f* in a conversation with him and you think "hink he's shown himself to have good character here."? Holy Batman.

@nilkin "You give me more money or I leave." vs. Just walking away from the negotiation. From my experience if you give in to "You give me more money or I leave" 6 months down the road it will be another "You give me more money or I leave" and then another. Wikipedia: "Blackmail is an act [..] involving unjustified threats to make [..] cause loss to another unless a demand is met."

After being strung along (he was lied to) for months he made a totally justified ultimatum to be paid what he's worth or he'd go somewhere that would.

A manager who knows someone is worth it but would still rather let me go than pay market price for their labor (because he doesn't like negotiating when he's not in a position of absolute power) is probably doing so because he can't man up and negotiate with someone his own size figuratively speaking. The stereotypical "I'm not letting a woman tell me what to do." sort of insecurity/attitude.

Employees have been "on the bottom" in the traditional work relationship for so long, it can seem "unfair" to employers to have to deal with employees on a more level playing field.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#255
post #242

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One central reason for why psychopaths are having such a great time in the world is that we keep giving them the benefit of the doubt. In general, it's good to be "rigorous", but in this case, it's not.

I'm not comfortable in general about the idea of labeling people based on their neurological makeup, unless one is in a therapeutic/psychiatric setting. In a relationship or work setting, people should be mainly judged by their actions. Hurtful things should not be ignored and people should be made responsible for their actions. I agree it's good to be aware of typical pathological personality types so people who end…

> I'm not comfortable in general about the idea of labeling people based on their neurological makeup, unless one is in a therapeutic/psychiatric setting.

The setting you're in has no bearing on whether people actually differ greatly based on their neurological makeup, though, so I don't see how that matters.

We're not on the same page here, but that's to be expected, even if you're actually not a psychopath yourself.

But what the world really needs to know is that because the difference between humans and psychopaths is so counter-intuitively vast, even seemingly small things are strong signs that someone is a psychopath.

For example, if someone keeps talking over you, he's probably a psychopath. Because he has no respect for you as a human being, he'll just casually interrupt you whenever he feels like saying something.

An actual human being wouldn't do that, because he naturally respects you as another human being.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#256
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Right, blame the guy for being exploited like so many others. 1/ He did not quit or made any ultimatum. He acted on what was promised, nothing wrong with that. But right you should always lower your head and submit to the startups and their heads. 2/ Typical protection of abusive companies by telling employees who are being openly screwed : "Deal with it". Such a healthy advice, lets not question the ethics and worki…

I think the CEO's a sociopath, and I could care less if he gets shamed like that dentist that shot Cecil the Lion. But the OP is supporting a wife and 4 kids, so I'm giving him tactical advice. >That I’d been told $75k was reasonable, and that I would have to look for work elsewhere if it was going to be $44k. That sounds like an ultimatum. The problem is he's bluffing. He gets his bluff called, and then what? He's o…

He wasn't bluffing, he was being honest. Being naive. Against a sociopath boss. He "would have to look" elsewhere; it's announcing an intention, which is honest, but also a bad idea against an evil boss.

His honesty is a sign of loyalty, which is clearly unwarranted with a boss that's only looking for ways to screw you. The problem is that a single developer has no power over an asshole boss. The only thing we can do is protect ourselves with exactly this kind of tactical advice.

But by all means, also protest for better worker protections to prevent people from being abused like that.

I feel like asking for naming and shaming the bad company so others can steer clear, but that's probably going to bite you in the ass. Suck it up, and name and shame them in 5 years, after you've got your life back on a solid road and well out of his reach.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#257
post #198

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No, Twitter isn't for bragging in this case. It's to follow other RoR devs and find out what they need help with. It's about leveraging Twitter to help you find jobs. Bragging isn't going to impress anybody, you have to let your Github do the bragging.

Well OK - whenever I tried to put twitter to some good use the ration between signal and noise just threw me off. But maybe I just wasn't able to find the right strategy.

To be fair, Twitter is filled to the brim with noise. And I'm just as jaded as you are WRT to the massive scale pandering to Twitter-mobs going on in current society.

With that being said, Dev communities tend to be quite different on twitter.

I'll have to take the plunge as well, so I'm speaking to myself as much as I'm speaking to you, make an account _solely_ for your developer persona.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

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Right, blame the guy for being exploited like so many others. 1/ He did not quit or made any ultimatum. He acted on what was promised, nothing wrong with that. But right you should always lower your head and submit to the startups and their heads. 2/ Typical protection of abusive companies by telling employees who are being openly screwed : "Deal with it". Such a healthy advice, lets not question the ethics and worki…

"If I were in his position I would have made sure that their name are public and known to prevent others from being exploited" Because what an unemployed, self-taught person with a non-working spouse (and four children, one of whom is special needs) is a defamation lawsuit on top of things? I assume the poster is US-based and their are just certain realities of the legal system. Even if the suit is ultimately overtur…

I agree. As tempting as naming and shaming sounds, it's only ever going to hurt people. Hopefully most of that will be on the boss (who richly deserves it), but some of it may land on the OP, and he really has other things on his mind right now.

Accept the shitty boss as a learning experience and get a better job at a better company.

Maybe if the boss has a superior to report to, or there's some neutral person at the company where you can address these things, you could try going there, but it doesn't sound like it's that kind of company, and it's unlikely to lead to a job with a raise, and that's really all that should concern you right now.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#259

I can't be the only person who wants to know what company could have abused an employee like this, if only to never apply to them or help support whatever godawful business they're trying to run.

Honestly I don't think they're bad. I have a lot of respect for a lot of the dev team and the product itself, which is why I'm so vague on details. Like I said in the post, I'm fairly private and didn't bring much up with anyone until the end, so I don't think anyone understood the situation. Actually one of the things that was encouraging during the past few months was remarks from former employees that [CEO] is a d…

It's totally possible there are many excellent people working at that company, but the boss is pure evil. It's pretty clear to you too that he's the one being disloyal, and a lot more than just that. He screwed you because he could, and he lied to you about it for months. Feel no loyalty to the guy.

That said, revenge can only hurt you. You need a job, and unless you have a legal case against him, there's nothing you can do about him right now. You need to think about you and your family, not about the shitty boss.

Re: I'm Begging for Work

#260
post #66

Time to get your game face on. I'm a CEO, we're hiring but not in your skill area. Having interviewed a lot of candidates lately and looked at many more, I wanted to give you my 2c on getting into extremely hirable shape fast: Update your LinkedIn profile as someone has mentioned already. Sweeten it up, get a great looking but professional profile pic up there, get kudos from friends, etc. Do the online profile clean…

> get a great looking but professional profile pic up there, get kudos from friends Really? as a CEO those are signals for you? the profile picture is debatable but the endorsements are just a joke and everyone knows it, people just exchange them like they do with twitter follows. If anything, too many of them would be a negative signal for me. Completely agree with the rest of your comment though.

Endorsements don't mean much, but they do show that people know you and think you don't suck, which is still better than nothing, especially for someone with very limited work experience.
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