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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by npunt »

sigmar wrote: post #524
giovannibajo1 wrote: post #480

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That's because they are not a OEM that throws hardware together trying to differentiate, no matter what the software using it will be like. Apple added NFC the day they had the software and the service ready, with all the intricacies in making a secure and private payment system, that works offline, is as fast or faster than swiping a card with no passwords to type, and that makes them make money but without charging…

>Apple added NFC the day they had the software and the service ready, with all the intricacies in making a secure and private payment system, that works offline, is as fast or faster than swiping a card with no passwords to type... What specific changes have made it possible for NFC to work in this way? All those things you listed seem possible in 2012.

Market changes - POS credit card machines were scheduled to be phased out in favor of chips and NFC by EOY2015 [1].

Apple Pay didn't come out of the blue. The impending POS infrastructure change created the opportunity to launch a better payments user experience in the 2014-2015 timeframe. Apple knew this, and developed/acquired/refined a better security method (touchID + tokenization) and corresponding user experience to negotiate on favorable terms with banks and merchants, which sealed the deal for many and created momentum toward getting stragglers onboard and reaching broad market penetration.

Just adding an NFC chip and calling it a day changes nothing. Few markets are penetrated by hardware - or even hardware and software - alone.

[1] http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2014/02/06/octob...

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by acqq »

m_mueller wrote: post #511
craigvn wrote: post #442

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But the iPod, iPhone & iPad were much better than the incumbents. iPad Pro is not.

Display size, resolution and performance in a passively cooled device are things that seem to differentiate it from competitors. IMO these are significant.

Yes, to compare, Surface Pro 3 still has the fan(!) but even so twice as little pixels.

Surface 3 Pro:

12.0 inches (30 cm) 2160x1440 (216 ppi) = 3 M pixels and the noisy fan

iPad Pro:

12.9-inch 2732-by-2048 resolution at 264 pixels per inch (ppi) = 5.5 M pixels (!) and no fan

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by untog »

mythz wrote: post #556
untog wrote: post #528

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And does that sound user friendly to you?

It's extremely intuitive, I didn't recall how to do any of them but I knew I'd be able to find out in the context of using each App.

Can those options reply to an existing email chain?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by bduerst »

thrownaway2424 wrote: post #575
sigmar wrote: post #524

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>Apple added NFC the day they had the software and the service ready, with all the intricacies in making a secure and private payment system, that works offline, is as fast or faster than swiping a card with no passwords to type... What specific changes have made it possible for NFC to work in this way? All those things you listed seem possible in 2012.

They were _possible_ in 2012 but getting everyone on board is difficult. Google included NFC on the Nexus S in 2010. The Nexus S was an atrocious piece of junk compared to its contemporary, the iPhone 4. NFC did nothing to make using the Nexus S more pleasurable. Android beam? Nobody used that. Google did not release the NFC-capable Wallet app until 2011, and at that time the integration between the app, the phone (s…

What you just described is exactly how Apple killed NFC adoption.

The lack of NFC, or even announcing plans for NFC, from Apple made it very difficult to develop anything useful for NFC. Without universal market share and with an uncertain future, NFC was avoided by many hardware developers who would have built anything useful.

June 2012 was the hinging point because it was when NFC payments were just picking up steam, but Apple elected to try to build their own walled-garden payments system using Passbook and bar codes.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by yohui »

coldtea wrote: post #504
metamet wrote: post #481

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DOMINATION.

They dominate the profits -- and the people that actuall do anything "smart" (most web use in the US for example, is from iOS devices, despite Android devices being far more percentage-wise). Androids huge sales are mostly low end of the market -- people who don't care about smartphones or computers, and just get whats cheaper with a 2 year contract.

But most mobile web browsing worldwide is from Android devices, and iOS's share of the mobile device market in the US is much larger than in most other countries (not quite parity, but Android's lead is much smaller).

Apple does reap the lion's share of profit from smartphone sales, but they don't dominate smartphone use.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by hodwik »

comex wrote: post #219
hodwik wrote: post #86

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> "this is going to be ideal for artists, photographers and anyone who wanted a 13" Cintiq" No, a 13" Cintiq is perfect for artists, & photographers who need a 13" Cintiq. This is perfect for anyone who has no idea what they're doing.

This is much more portable (since you don't have to attach it to a computer - you can carry it around like a paper notebook), has a significantly higher resolution display, and is not much more expensive (especially considering the difference in internals).

There is not a chance in hell this thing is coming anywhere near the Cintiq's 2,048 pressure levels.

The Surface Pro 3, for example, clocks in at about 256 levels. Good enough for note taking, not good enough for any serious graphics workflow.

Even Wacom's $99.00 "Inkling" clocks in at 1,248 levels.

The only serious competitor against Wacom that I have seen is "Huion" out of Shenzhen.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by rdancer »

coldtea wrote: post #495
bjacobel wrote: post #440

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The really galling part is the total refusal to admit they're not doing anything innovative. "There has never been another product like the iPad Pro before" was a real quote from today's presentation, and is a complete falsehood.

It's marketing. And when it comes to marketing its far more true than that Lynx will get you laid (lol), or that some new detergent will revolutionaze how clean your clothes are, or that some GAP clothes will make you part of the "in" crowd. It's also depends on the level we're talking. If we just take "product like the iPad pro" to mean "a large tablet" then yes it's a "complete falsehood". But it obviously means "a…

> Lynx will get you laid

Oh yes, it will. Getting teen-agers to start applying basic precepts of personal hygiene is like trying to drill an oil well with a toothbrush. Those commercials get it exactly right: (1) you stink (2) only men who don't stink get laid (3) use a bloody deodorant, you testosterone-laden pig!

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by sbov »

coldtea wrote: post #504
metamet wrote: post #481

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DOMINATION.

They dominate the profits -- and the people that actuall do anything "smart" (most web use in the US for example, is from iOS devices, despite Android devices being far more percentage-wise). Androids huge sales are mostly low end of the market -- people who don't care about smartphones or computers, and just get whats cheaper with a 2 year contract.

> most web use in the US for example, is from iOS devices

Any proof?

Our US-only ecommerce site has 33% more visitors using Android than iOS. Our other US-only site has 2x more Android visitors than iOS.

I realize that sites vary by demographics, so I'm curious if you're just making this statement up, using your own site's stats, or found something that actually backs this up on the wider web.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by rdancer »

kailuowang wrote: post #377
austenallred wrote: post #278

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I really don't give a shit who is copying who. It's technology; we're all building on the backs of inventions created by other people. The important thing to me is who does it the best, not who does it first. The iPod was nowhere near the first mp3 player, it was just the best one. The iPad wasn't close to the first tablet. Will it be the best tablet? I don't know, but whether or not the Surface had a keyboard first…

It's not the copying that worries people, it's the lack of not-coping, i.e. innovations. iPod is not the first mp3 player, iPhone is not the first smart phone, but they were packed with innovative ideas that stood them out. We see less and less such ideas from Apple. Their execution/quality control is still top notch though, but other companies are catching up.

oh come on, apple watch?!
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