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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by foogered »

DamnInteresting wrote: post #459
bigtunacan wrote: post #135

The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

It depends on one's use cases. I use an iPad Air for two main tasks: 1) to sketch and "paint" (using ArtRage); and 2) to make music in various apps. For these applications, screen size trumps portability (larger canvas for art, wider screen for audio timelines and more keys on keyboards). I don't think I'm going to upgrade anytime soon, but when I am looking for a newer tablet, the iPad Pro will tempt me.

Exactly.

I think Apple is primarily trying to attract artists and other creative types with the Pro. A good friend of mine is planning on giving up his Wacom and moving to an iPad Pro instead.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by AstroJetson »

I didn't see the entire demo, but can I write on it? I have a pencil, can I write words and have them come out as text? I'm happy to write in Palm's Graffitti. It works now for iDevices and my finger, but the new pencil would make that easier.

Looking for the ad that says: "I'm an enterprise business drone, I go to meetings, I need to take notes. I use my iPad Pro and my iPencil and by the time I walk out of the room the meeting notes are to my team."

Otherwise it's not something I can use. While my doodles make my co-workers laugh, not sure that my PHB wants to buy me one of these....

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by notNow »

spacehome wrote: post #463
mikeyouse wrote: post #393

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When the litigation attorney for Samsung can't tell the difference between the two devices in open court, they might have gone a little too far in copying the iPad's design.. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/14/us-apple-samsung-l...

From that article: > Koh frequently remarked on the similarity between each company's tablets. At one point during the hearing, she held one black glass tablet in each hand above her head, and asked Sullivan if she could identify which company produced which. > "Not at this distance your honor," said Sullivan, who stood at a podium roughly ten feet away. I get what you're saying, but they were asked to tell the diffe…

Since the companies adopted the slab form factor for the devices. all smartphone and tablets look the same esp. from the front.

I don't see this argument holding water and it seems to me that my interlocutor is comfortable with Apple stealing/copying other people's work but when they do to Apple it's all hell breaks loose, double standards maybe?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by mythz »

untog wrote: post #439
mythz wrote: post #422

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Apple's primary focus is on UX simplicity and Customers couldn't care less how it's implemented behind the scenes, they just want to get stuff done, find the Word document they were working on or see the Photo or Video they just took. The less Customers have to know about how technology works the happier they are, and the more successful Apple is.

Say you're composing an e-mail and you want to attach a Word doc you downloaded - how do you do that on an iPad?

The functionality is available within the context of the feature you're using. If it's a Word document you open the document, click the share icon and click "Send Attachment". Apple's Pages also has a Share icon that even lets you easily convert to Word, PDF, or ePub format before sending.

For attaching whilst composing an email in Gmail (what I use) there's an "Attach" icon that lets you attach photos or files from Google Drive. Whilst Apple's Mail lets you click the cursor on where you want to add the Photo/Video.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by coldtea »

bjacobel wrote: post #440
austenallred wrote: post #278

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I really don't give a shit who is copying who. It's technology; we're all building on the backs of inventions created by other people. The important thing to me is who does it the best, not who does it first. The iPod was nowhere near the first mp3 player, it was just the best one. The iPad wasn't close to the first tablet. Will it be the best tablet? I don't know, but whether or not the Surface had a keyboard first…

The really galling part is the total refusal to admit they're not doing anything innovative. "There has never been another product like the iPad Pro before" was a real quote from today's presentation, and is a complete falsehood.

It's marketing. And when it comes to marketing its far more true than that Lynx will get you laid (lol), or that some new detergent will revolutionaze how clean your clothes are, or that some GAP clothes will make you part of the "in" crowd.

It's also depends on the level we're talking. If we just take "product like the iPad pro" to mean "a large tablet" then yes it's a "complete falsehood".

But it obviously means "a large tablet with this attention to detail, with the supporting OS and app ecosystem finely tuned to work along with it". Which is true -- as all Surface tablets I've seen are if not subpar, different in several ways.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by coldtea »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #474
bjacobel wrote: post #440

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The really galling part is the total refusal to admit they're not doing anything innovative. "There has never been another product like the iPad Pro before" was a real quote from today's presentation, and is a complete falsehood.

It's not a complete falsehood but it's a totally empty statement. Virtually any device you put out that's not exactly, spec-by-spec the same, you can say 'never been a product like this before'. It's true and empty. They do a lot of those, they're true, hyperbolic, and totally devoid of any significance. For example they'll say 'the iPhone 6 was the most popular iPhone ... EVER'. As if it's significant. But that's co…

>For example they'll say 'the iPhone 6 was the most popular iPhone ... EVER'. As if it's significant. But that's completely unexpected and it's not news, either. I'll happily take a 10 trillion dollar bet that the iPhone 7 will sell even better. And that the new Galaxy S 6 sells better than the 5, and the 7 will sell better than the 6, too.

You understand that sales growth can't last forever right?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by AstroJetson »

(second post different topic) Work uses Two Factor Authentication using certificates. Presently they are on a USB smart card or a device with a smart card reader. So far it works well on Surface and Android tablets. Did anybody see the iOS9 section if they will support certificates? Living in a smartcard world, this is also a must. Apple hasn't cracked the Citrix world so far, they keep saying iOSx+1.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by coldtea »

craigvn wrote: post #442
austenallred wrote: post #278

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I really don't give a shit who is copying who. It's technology; we're all building on the backs of inventions created by other people. The important thing to me is who does it the best, not who does it first. The iPod was nowhere near the first mp3 player, it was just the best one. The iPad wasn't close to the first tablet. Will it be the best tablet? I don't know, but whether or not the Surface had a keyboard first…

But the iPod, iPhone & iPad were much better than the incumbents. iPad Pro is not.

Have tried it?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by robotresearcher »

icebraining wrote: post #451
robotresearcher wrote: post #369

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"let's not make everyone carry around the cost and size of the ports they won't use."

I suppose that's why Apple devices are so much cheaper than the competitors.

Yep, you can find cheaper products with more ports. Go buy one and be happy. This one is the mindshare, design and profit leader, which is why we're talking about it.
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