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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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I know this is petty, but every time I see an Apple demo and they are saying how many inches the screen is I think - wow that's a really uncool and old fashioned system of measures. If Apple can force standards - like Thunderbolt - how about using centimeters. Edit: they can even say they invented the metric system - ok with me ;)

Apple is a US company and the keynote is in the US. Inches are not considered "uncool" nor "old fashioned" in the US. The US tried switching to metric many years ago, but it didn't work.

I'm sure their localized advertising for other countries lists the dimensions in metric units.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

In context Jobs was talking about a stylus as the only/primary input for the device, meaning you would be required to have a stylus to ever use the device. Of course that would be terrible. This stylus is an optional accessory with a very specific use case. A fundamentally different thing.

You are taking Apple apologetics to a whole new level.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Because its called the iPad Pro ?

And the only Pro users are going to be developers/programmers, right? How about my doctor while he visits patients, or my dentist to show me my X-rays easily, or the automative tech that plugs in an OBDII module and instantly sees information on the large screen... Those people are professionals, and that is what this is geared towards, not just developers.

It'd be nice if they remembered us. We seem to be the only creative types not being targeted here. And yes, I'd actually consider it for a few purposes..

No, don't ship the SDK by default. Make it so that it only runs locally-compiled binaries. That's okay. But I'd like the ability to use this for real work that I do. Everybody else gets to work on it, after all.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Surface Pro 3 has a fan, this doesn't. That's a big difference that I would pay a bit more for (I actually went with a surface 3 just for this reason). The screen is also higher res, I'm guessing the unit is lighter also. Looks like it might be time for a surface pro 4 though, so let's see.

I must say I sat opposite someone on the train the other week and thought "what is that noise?". It turned out to be his Surface Pro. I'm not sure whether he was doing anything particularly intensive or just checking email, but the fact that it was audible above the typical noise of a train put me off ever wanting to buy one. Imagine trying to read or watch a movie in bed with that whirring going on!

I'm done with fans in tablets. Surface 3's Intel X is ok, though performance is just on par with the A8 (it falls behind in many benchmarks, but it's good enough for me).

I wonder if Apple will update the iPad air with 3d touch and stylus capabilities?

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The surface pro didn't do anything new at all. It was windows for tablets with decent industrial design (great design aside from the keyboards). It's not like Apple hadn't dicked around with keyboard covers et al since back in the Newton days. This isn't a question of who did hardware feature X first but who did user feature Y right. The jury is out but when I went to a Microsoft store ready to buy a maxed out surfac…

Yep I loved the idea of the surface; tried to use it to replace my mb air for but ended up returning it because the ecosystem was terrible and the keyboard was annoying.

Mouse is horrible, a bit over priced for the cpu but other than that it's great - good form factor and nice pen.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Well, it did take them about a decade to catch up with Microsoft when they introduced the iPad. Bill Gates announced tablets 15 years ago: http://youtu.be/T5Va8XfuN9s What really is happening is the usual trolling that happens after every Apple event. Apple has different priorities. They'll make tablets more functional as CPU and battery improve. There will be a conversion with the desktop, or at least low-end laptop…

Agreed. Apple and MS have completely different strategies. Apple chose to go the multiple OS route. MS is going with one OS to rule them all. (Also Apple ultimately wants to sell complete gadgets, whereas MS wants to sell software and services)

Microsoft did go multi-OS route but the Windows branding did not allow the flexibility and led to demise of Windows RT.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Looks like the Surface Pro with type cover and Stylus. As long as the mobile OS and locked down ecosystem limits it, many will be better off buying the Surface. Although the stylus too seems to be inferior - it has batteries. Both the Surface and Note ones don't - probably because Wacom? If that's the case this is classic NIH case - putting out inferior product just because they couldn't call it Apple Pencil.

SP3 stylus uses batteries. Two of them. Not an issue, and I find the technology far more accurate than the Wacoms, especially around the edges.
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