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Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by collyw »

bufordsharkley wrote: post #17
Scarbutt wrote: post #7

Looking at the nutrition facts, with 5 bottles (2000 calories) a day you get 60% daily value of fiber, is that percentage enough or I'm missing something here?

I believe the response from Soylent is that fiber itself is not necessary; it's only needed to move along solid food through the digestive system. If you're only drinking Soylent, you should need far less fiber, if any at all. I am seeing a lot of criticism of this online [1], however. [1] http://discourse.soylent.me/t/reduced-fiber-in-1-5/21706/8

Because a bunch of engineers is going to know best about that sort of thing. (It wasn't invented by gastroenteroligists was it?)

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by collyw »

adultSwim wrote: post #66
riebschlager wrote: post #43

Soylent truly is the food of the future! [1] [1] The joyless tech-utopian future for ascetics nerds who decided their humanity wasn't optimized for maximum productivity.

Ha! I started using it because it's just so easy for me to skip breakfast and/or lunch. I'm not replacing food with it. Just works better than not eating.

You should try intermittent fasting. The first two or three weeks are hard, but after that its easy, and really seems to sort out insulin sensitivity (or thats my guess from reading the science and "gut" feeling - pun intended). No feeling tired after lunch.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by cryoshon »

Please stop this culture of insanity, it is destructive.

I get it, Soylent is targeting the "100X engineer" crowd who are supposed to be unflappably dedicated near-godlike ubermenschen. I get that people need to telegraph "how busy" they are by constantly talking about it to everyone with ears. I understand that people need to communicate high-value to each other, and do this by referencing how much responsibility they're given professionally or otherwise-- but long before the point of people eating nutrient paste instead of real food, this busyness fetish has gone too far. You don't need to be eating nutrient paste to convince me that you are important at your job and also good at it-- these concepts have nothing to do with each other, and the usage of Soylent as a prop for the persona of "being hardcore" is simply puerile.

Nobody in the real world is so "busy" that they can't stop what they are doing for a few minutes and prepare and consume real food in order to meet their body's demands. Even special forces soldiers on combat missions in enemy territory carry food that needs to be quickly prepared, which they can then scarf down. Relatedly, quality food is a big boon for morale-- and Soylent sure aint.

I guess if you're a meta-human weirdo who claims to have no inherent desire to consume tasty food and just wants to "get it out of the way", Soylent is for you. I don't believe you actually exist, though. I guess it's possible some brain pathology could cause a lack of desire for food, but come on, go to a doctor instead of eating Soylent.

As a parting shot, I'll mention that Soylent probably doesn't have any kind of phytonutrients or anything similar. Soylent also doesn't have any of the numerous pharmacologically active ingredients of common food items-- the effects of not having these may be subtle, but noticeable over time. Look, just go to your local farm stand, and buy some fucking fruits and vegetables. Most of them can even be eaten raw if you're gonna be a jerk about "not being able to cook" or not having enough time.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by frewsxcv »

cryoshon wrote: post #74

Please stop this culture of insanity, it is destructive. I get it, Soylent is targeting the "100X engineer" crowd who are supposed to be unflappably dedicated near-godlike ubermenschen. I get that people need to telegraph "how busy" they are by constantly talking about it to everyone with ears. I understand that people need to communicate high-value to each other, and do this by referencing how much responsibility th…

'Nobody in the real world is so "busy" that they can't stop what they are doing for a few minutes and prepare and consume real food in order to meet their body's demands.'

Compare the preparation time for preparing a meal that satisfies oneself nutritionally compared with Soylent. It's not just about spending more time working, it's about having time to do other things like reading or playing music. Also, why are you getting so upset about people who want to eat nutritious meals?

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by untog »

geofft wrote: post #52
deegles wrote: post #5

It seems like such a waste of plastic and cardboard. Makes me think of Keurig k-cups and how it's been deemed an environmental mess. I'm sure the Soylent bottles are recyclable but it's still a waste to be shipping all that weight around (including the water). I hope they make a vending machine that mixes it on the spot.

You can just donate the used plastic and cardboard to charity alongside your dirty laundry. Charities can use these things without further cleaning, so you're not harming the environment.

I fear that people aren't going to get the reference here...

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by vijayr »

cryoshon wrote: post #74

Please stop this culture of insanity, it is destructive. I get it, Soylent is targeting the "100X engineer" crowd who are supposed to be unflappably dedicated near-godlike ubermenschen. I get that people need to telegraph "how busy" they are by constantly talking about it to everyone with ears. I understand that people need to communicate high-value to each other, and do this by referencing how much responsibility th…

You don't need to be eating nutrient paste to convince me that you are important at your job and also good at it

Why at all convince others that we are busy? What is the point of all this?

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by MarcusVorenus »

cryoshon wrote: post #74

Please stop this culture of insanity, it is destructive. I get it, Soylent is targeting the "100X engineer" crowd who are supposed to be unflappably dedicated near-godlike ubermenschen. I get that people need to telegraph "how busy" they are by constantly talking about it to everyone with ears. I understand that people need to communicate high-value to each other, and do this by referencing how much responsibility th…

I think it's fascinating how hostile some people can get towards Soylent. It's like they think the mere existence of it is an attack to the core of their identity. I wonder if it's just insecurity triggered by people liking something that they don't like or some other type of psychological defense mechanism.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by DanBC »

RickS wrote: post #19
bpodgursky wrote: post #4

At this point, I'm not sure how bottled Soylent can distinguish itself from other bottled dietary replacements like Ensure, aside from the name.

Are ensure et al nutritionally complete? As in - you can live off ensure and nothing else? My understanding is that soylent (and clones) are able to be full replacements for food in general, whereas ensure, muscle milk, etc, are meant to be purely supplemental

When Ensure markets itself to the general public the makers responsibly say it's a supplement. But if you're a medical professional you get the other marketing - which is clear that ensure etc can be used as a sole source of nutrition under medical supervision. They have a variety of products to cover a variet of needs. They have ensure plus which has more calories than ensure; they have products for NG tubes; they have low protien versions; there are version for children; etc.

http://abbottnutrition.com/brands/abbott-brands

The fact that they limit this marketing to registered healthcare professionals and have a bunch of caveats about "under medical supervision", and Soylent doesn't, is something you can draw your own conclusions about.

Some people will see this as disruptive and an example of a small nimble supplier filling a niche; other people will see it as SV pathologically avoiding reasonable regulation.

Re: Now Shipping Soylent 2.0

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Post by tunesmith »

I'd love to see less snark/hostility/FUD on these Soylent threads.

1. No, Soylent is not the same as Ensure with different packaging/marketing

2. No, Soylent does not have illegal levels of heavy metals, nor did it in the past.

3. People don't tend to eat nutritionally complete meals every meal of the day. Measuring Soylent against this ideal is beside the point. Soylent is inarguably better than coke and cheetos, though. I bet most people reading this can think of a meal they've had in the last 48 hours that was less healthy than 12 oz soylent.

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