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Google in Kansas City: A Tale of Two-Speed America

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Romania, and parts of Poland where new Fiber networks are laid out have ~$35-40 1Gbit unlimited internet. Meanwhile people in US wonder how much Google is losing on $100 per 1Gb clients? :)

According to Akamai's State of the Internet report for Q1, the US has an average broadband speed of 11.9mbps. Romania is 12.8mbps, Poland is 9.8mbps. By comparison France is 7.5mbps, and Germany is 10.2mbps.

Based on the median household income in Romania being 16% that of the US, if 1gbps Internet access there costs $35-$40, you're paying the US equivalent of $210-$240.

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It's funny coz in mainland Europe and even in the UK we have had lightning fast internet way before 2011. Should we expect some 'american freedom' soon?

The US has faster average Internet access speeds than the UK and most of mainland Europe.

https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/downloads/pdfs/2015-q1-st...

https://www.stateoftheinternet.com/downloads/pdfs/2015-q1-st...

Re: Google in Kansas City: A Tale of Two-Speed America

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Romania, and parts of Poland where new Fiber networks are laid out have ~$35-40 1Gbit unlimited internet. Meanwhile people in US wonder how much Google is losing on $100 per 1Gb clients? :)

According to Akamai's State of the Internet report for Q1, the US has an average broadband speed of 11.9mbps. Romania is 12.8mbps, Poland is 9.8mbps. By comparison France is 7.5mbps, and Germany is 10.2mbps. Based on the median household income in Romania being 16% that of the US, if 1gbps Internet access there costs $35-$40, you're paying the US equivalent of $210-$240.

While affordability is certainly an issue, the OP probably is probably referring to capital costs involved and whether Google can recover them back.

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"Liimatta tried to convince Google to install connections in community buildings, to power a cheap WiFi service in low-income areas. The company refused, saying it violated its terms of service. “It’s our biggest disappointment. We would have loved to have taken Google Fiber to the worst places, where it could have really made a difference.”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Akamai's State of the Internet report for Q1, the US has an average broadband speed of 11.9mbps. Romania is 12.8mbps, Poland is 9.8mbps. By comparison France is 7.5mbps, and Germany is 10.2mbps. Based on the median household income in Romania being 16% that of the US, if 1gbps Internet access there costs $35-$40, you're paying the US equivalent of $210-$240.

While affordability is certainly an issue, the OP probably is probably referring to capital costs involved and whether Google can recover them back.

That was part of the point, doing anything in Romania is going to be drastically cheaper, because wages are so much lower. That includes putting fiber into the ground.

If Romania's capital costs were $35-$40, and Google's are $100, the Romania cost is high by a significant margin if you adjust for the economies being so different.

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Romania, and parts of Poland where new Fiber networks are laid out have ~$35-40 1Gbit unlimited internet. Meanwhile people in US wonder how much Google is losing on $100 per 1Gb clients? :)

According to Akamai's State of the Internet report for Q1, the US has an average broadband speed of 11.9mbps. Romania is 12.8mbps, Poland is 9.8mbps. By comparison France is 7.5mbps, and Germany is 10.2mbps. Based on the median household income in Romania being 16% that of the US, if 1gbps Internet access there costs $35-$40, you're paying the US equivalent of $210-$240.

It's actually 14$/mo. with VAT in Romania for 1000mbps. I'm not sure if Akamai's state of the Internet also takes into account mobile connections, because those would certainly drop the average speed down.

Edit: the speed itself is also not limited to just inside the country, although ISPs in Europe use public peerings a lot more than those in the US.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/4647615600.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/4647608031.png

Re: Google in Kansas City: A Tale of Two-Speed America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to Akamai's State of the Internet report for Q1, the US has an average broadband speed of 11.9mbps. Romania is 12.8mbps, Poland is 9.8mbps. By comparison France is 7.5mbps, and Germany is 10.2mbps. Based on the median household income in Romania being 16% that of the US, if 1gbps Internet access there costs $35-$40, you're paying the US equivalent of $210-$240.

It's actually 14$/mo. with VAT in Romania for 1000mbps. I'm not sure if Akamai's state of the Internet also takes into account mobile connections, because those would certainly drop the average speed down. Edit: the speed itself is also not limited to just inside the country, although ISPs in Europe use public peerings a lot more than those in the US. http://www.speedtest.net/result/4647615600.png http://www.speedtes…

Looking at UPC they're charging about $15 for 500mbps, and RCS RDS is charging about $14 (as you noted) for 1gbps - those are about $90 adjusted to US incomes. Google Fiber in Kansas City is $70, which seems very fair to me, given Romania is renowned for inexpensive very high speed access.
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