I still use mh (well, nmh now) programs for my personal email. There is nothing that beats mh's "pick" program for selecting emails.
Does imap figure anywhere in your mix?
Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
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Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#62Most "Security Experts" are working for consultancy, tech firms, and government agencies so they probably use plenty of other clients. The majority will probably run Outlook since Exchange is the defacto mail-server standard for any organization (that isn't tied to Lotus because 45 years ago the CEO had to sacrifice a goat to appease IBM to spare his 1st born), the rest will probably use Gmail or any other web-based…
You can use mutt with Exchange servers and Gmail servers
Do you wind up with plaintext emails that look gross when opened in Outlook?
Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#63Wish it was more user friendly and ran well on Windows (yes, I'm that guy). A good example of something that is user friendly, fast, secure and runs almost everywhere is the messaging client Telegram. Would be great if there were more programs like it.
Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#64Claws (and sylpheed, which it is a fork of) is by default text-only (html rendering only through a plugin). I used to use just mutt, but use claws quite a bit now.
Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#65Wish it was more user friendly and ran well on Windows (yes, I'm that guy). A good example of something that is user friendly, fast, secure and runs almost everywhere is the messaging client Telegram. Would be great if there were more programs like it.
I think we're past the point of apologizing for using Windows. I just switched back after 5 years on Ubuntu and have been thrilled how things just work.
Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#66I use mutt because after you learn of its power, other mail clients reveal themselves to be toys. I keep all my active correspondence in my inbox (5773 messages at the moment). With a few keystrokes I can instantly create a subset of my inbox optimized for the task at hand. (People who use toys instead of mutt often advocate an "inbox zero" approach, I understand.)
Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#67I use mu4e[1] to read, search and refile my emails, and there's a keyboard shortcut for viewing an HTML email in a browser. offlineimap[2] handles inbound messages. I love it! But for writing email, I still tend to jump over to Apple Mail. msmtp[3] handles outbound messages on those occasions when I choose to fire off a message from within mu4e. [1] http://www.djcbsoftware.nl/code/mu/mu4e.html [&] https://github.com/…
I used mutt when I used vim, but after switching to emacs, I began using mu4e. Very keyboard-driven and scriptable. Glad to see others on HN using it.
Speaking to your not using mu4e to compose mail, I compose mail in org-mode (I often make lists in emails) then copy them into an mu4e buffer. Funny to see someone using uncommon software the same way I do.
Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think people use mutt because of security (other than good PGP support). I think people use mutt because they like the efficiency of a lean, terminal based, email client.
That plus there aren't many good open source (non-web) options. Thunderbird is pretty bad.
What's wrong with Thunderbird? Note that if you use it as an IMAP client for Gmail, that Gmail's IMAP implementation is -as I understand it- kinda bad, so you're gonna kinda have a bad time.
Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#69Wish it was more user friendly and ran well on Windows (yes, I'm that guy). A good example of something that is user friendly, fast, secure and runs almost everywhere is the messaging client Telegram. Would be great if there were more programs like it.
> Wish [mutt] was more user friendly and ran well on Windows...
I would be shocked if Cygwin's mutt port didn't run just as well on Windows as it did on Linux. Remember that UNIX software that you compile with Cygwin becomes a native Windows executable.
Re: Why Some Security Experts Use Mutt
#70Most "Security Experts" are working for consultancy, tech firms, and government agencies so they probably use plenty of other clients. The majority will probably run Outlook since Exchange is the defacto mail-server standard for any organization (that isn't tied to Lotus because 45 years ago the CEO had to sacrifice a goat to appease IBM to spare his 1st born), the rest will probably use Gmail or any other web-based…
You can use mutt with Exchange servers and Gmail servers
I think the idea is that a security professional should use, on a regular basis, multiple email clients.
It's a funny trick of the english language that when we say someone uses an email client, it comes across as an exclusive use. We need an explicit patch.