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The Internet of Way Too Many Things

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Re: The Internet of Way Too Many Things

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I'm reminded of the online coke machine: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~coke/history_long.txt I'm also (many times a day) reminded of some Douglas Adams bits. 1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a car…

>Before long, computers will be as trivial and plentiful as chairs... Nonsense. A modern CPU has so many parts, no single human can understand its circuitry. And the complexity is ever increasing. The chair comparison is extremely poor; we live in an environment that is ever increasing in complexity and even today, most people don't understand the array of modern technology they're surrounded with and I don't see tha…

You'd be surprised how hard it is to create your own safe and reliable chair from scratch. I certainly don't think "most people could build one".

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I'm not krisdol, but I presume the "empty plastic boxes" is a reference to the fact that the amount of hardware necessary to stream video is now miniscule. My Roku is the size it is not because it needs to be that big to hold components, but so that it looks substantial to consumers and doesn't get lost in a ball of cables. And interop for me would mean that instead of N proprietary platforms that must be targeted se…

I agree with your take, but I don't see that happening; I prefer to take care of media acquisition on my own because I don't trust these companies to do any differently than the media companies they seek to, ultimately, replace. Roku has the private channel feature that I think makes it more interesting than the other players, and I wish more effort was exerted to explore the possibilities with private channels. Have…

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Re: The Internet of Way Too Many Things

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I'm excited about IoT, and have ordered some ESP8266 development boards to play with.

With that said, don't get me wrong, but some of this stuff has to be failsafe, and making it smarter, makes it more complex. More like software, if you will.

I don't know if there are enough engineers out there, with the knowledge, discipline and experience designing failsafe products, to support the entire IoT industry.

Re: The Internet of Way Too Many Things

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One of the companies that is solving this very problem is Xiaomi. Their method is quite crude - that is, they make everything themselves. But the end result is that everything they make - from an air purifier to a TV - is connected and operated via a similar / familiar OS called MIUI. They give away their phones for very cheap, because the phone is the Trojan horse - it is the remote control for all the other devices…

Yup, Xiamoi makes everything interoperable by making it themselves. And Apple makes HomeKit. And Google makes their own. And Microsoft makes their own. And HP makes their own. And... See the problem?

If Xiamoi makes enough of the stack, the devices with a desirable user experience...it might not be a problem at all for both Xiamoi and the customers at this phase of IoT - the vertical integration level is likely required to get it off the ground and make it a good experience.

Eventually, a shift to a more horizontal and open approach will win out, but it seems hard to do that at the starting point of an emerging market.

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I do. And you are right. I think we will get to a place where one company does it right, before we agree on an interoperable standard.

I'm cynica that will be the case. On the Internet TV front we have roku, apple tv, chrome cast, kindle fire TV-- all of them empty plastic boxes doing nearly the same exact thing, and yet there is no interop to speak of. It's just more walled gardens

if all of these have youtube, hulu and netflix ...to the consumer that might be the level of interop currently required -- interop with their fav delivery platforms, not necessarily the devices themselves

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I went to an Internet of Things meeting in SF about two years ago, and it was about like this. A Samsung executive was touting an Internet-enabled refrigerator, which was basically just a refrigerator with a tablet built into the door, with no special sensors, costing more than a refrigerator plus a tablet. I asked him why they'd built the product, and got an honest answer. He said the market was three types of peopl…

It'd be great if the refrigerator could track the expiration dates of the items inside using RFID, then notify you if anything was getting old. For made at home items and non-tagged items, they could also make RFID stickies, where you scan them when you put the item in the fridge, give it a name or take a snapshot with the built-in camera, set your own expiration date, and it tracks how long it's been in there. If yo…

Please tell me that was a clever sarcastic comment about the whole smart refrigerator idea. Sorry but obsessive compulsive tracking of what exactly is in the refrigerator isn't really a problem for people who are already exacting about such things. Most of us fall more into the camp of "Does it still smell OK"? That's the messy analog reality of so many things around the house that supposed consumer IoT solutions mostly ignore.

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Well here is an interesting argument for voice control: it's more hygienic. All touch points are potential sources for disease. On the other hand, maybe we are increasing allergies by making the environment too sterile. What hygienic technology will replace touch screens?

A damp, soapy sponge cleans smartphones pretty well. And a damp cloth to rinse before drying. Still waiting for waterproofing to become a standard smartphone feature. Then we can start debating handwashing vs dishwashing, and also use the phone to record the washing cycle on video from inside the dishwasher.

Apparently, it's already standard - in Japan.

Re: The Internet of Way Too Many Things

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People suggest this a lot, but it only makes sense aesthetically (and even then only sometimes). From an environmental point of view it doesn't make any sense to do this.

Isn't the draw negligible nowadays? Even my cheap unbranded USB chargers remain at room temperature when nothing is plugged in. And you could always get sockets with switches.

It costs resources simply to make the device. They tend to cost much more than the simple bricks, which means they use more resources than the simple bricks.

And unlike the bricks which you have approx 1 per device, with outlets you need too many of them.

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