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Linguistic Harbingers of Betrayal

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Re: Linguistic Harbingers of Betrayal

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The excess of positive language prior to betrayal point definitely matches my personal experience.

The reduction in politeness is also interesting. As someone who really enjoys formality, I like to think that forms are a kind of social guardrail to reduce the likelihood of misbehaviour (which would of course include betrayal), but that's probably far too pat.

Re: Linguistic Harbingers of Betrayal

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The excess of positive language prior to betrayal point definitely matches my personal experience.

The reduction in politeness is also interesting. As someone who really enjoys formality, I like to think that forms are a kind of social guardrail to reduce the likelihood of misbehaviour (which would of course include betrayal), but that's probably far too pat.

> The reduction in politeness is also interesting.

It's very counter-intuitive. I'd like to hear a rationale for this strategy.

Re: Linguistic Harbingers of Betrayal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reduction in politeness is also interesting. As someone who really enjoys formality, I like to think that forms are a kind of social guardrail to reduce the likelihood of misbehaviour (which would of course include betrayal), but that's probably far too pat.

> The reduction in politeness is also interesting. It's very counter-intuitive. I'd like to hear a rationale for this strategy.

This may be measuring relative power or favorability of position for the two players. Weaker players are more polite to their stronger allies (and less likely to betray), strong players are less polite and more likely to betray, for example.

Re: Linguistic Harbingers of Betrayal

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post #3
post #2

The excess of positive language prior to betrayal point definitely matches my personal experience.

The reduction in politeness is also interesting. As someone who really enjoys formality, I like to think that forms are a kind of social guardrail to reduce the likelihood of misbehaviour (which would of course include betrayal), but that's probably far too pat.

Formality won't reduce betrayal but instead prescribe behavior that lets one fully mask intention of betrayal. When expected behavior norms aren't fully prescribed, or when they're impaired (as when one is drunk), it's harder to maintain politeness. Downton Abbey-style formality, on the other hand, lets one maintain the facade of perfect society while stabbing someone's back.

Re: Linguistic Harbingers of Betrayal

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reduction in politeness is also interesting. As someone who really enjoys formality, I like to think that forms are a kind of social guardrail to reduce the likelihood of misbehaviour (which would of course include betrayal), but that's probably far too pat.

> The reduction in politeness is also interesting. It's very counter-intuitive. I'd like to hear a rationale for this strategy.

My guess is dehumanization. The betrayer has to shove down their empathy, and that blocks them from thinking of actions that flow from caring about another's feelings - except instrumentally. So direct feeling manipulation, "positive sentiment", goes up.

Re: Linguistic Harbingers of Betrayal

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They don't have an app for this yet? There's an obvious startup here.

I was thinking the same thing. Diplomacy is one of the best multiplayer games ever designed. This should be ideally suited for writing as a mobile app. I'd love to know if there any out there worth checking out.

There's this at the iPhone App Store: "The Game of Diplomacy by Chris Hughes" https://appsto.re/us/iCIzt.i

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