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U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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I'm not sure if I would call that number staggering. It was noted by one person who objected to the settlement that it amounted to only 10% of the estimated savings the companies reaped from the practice.

"savings" ... more like "ill-gotten gains from racketeering" usually the government confiscates those and then sends the perps to jail over it.

Hard to do to a corporation.

Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"savings" ... more like "ill-gotten gains from racketeering" usually the government confiscates those and then sends the perps to jail over it.

Hard to do to a corporation.

usually the members of the syndicate go to jail, usually the syndicate is not tried as a whole.

Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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This conspiracy is by far the most intentionally evil thing tech companies have ever been caught doing. Also the worst thing Steve Jobs did in his life.

Jobs was a scumbag through and through... just one more check mark on stupid shit rich business people and their respective corporations can get away with in America most of the time. Even now it's a small sum for these companies, a few thousand dollars a person, much less than the actual pay lost due to corruption. A few billion each would've actually sent a message and actually set the victims whole. Funny how the…

25% is a rather "normal" attorney fee award. You can argue they shouldn't get that much but remember that they have to eat the cost of prosecuting the case for a long time before seeing a dime.

EDIT: I don't get the harsh downvoting. I'm unfamiliar with the particulars of the case but remember that not all class-actions end favourably for the lawyers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Civil_Action

Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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I commented on this a year ago or so: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8154909 My opinion on this is unchanged and I'm still disturbed by the greed behind this lawsuit.

You may enjoy The Fallacy of Relative Privation - http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as

"Look, none of you were actually murdered, so it's unfair of you to complain about the beating you received."

I'm also curious as to why the greed of the companies doesn't disturb you?

To everyone else - join, or form, a union.

Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jobs was a scumbag through and through... just one more check mark on stupid shit rich business people and their respective corporations can get away with in America most of the time. Even now it's a small sum for these companies, a few thousand dollars a person, much less than the actual pay lost due to corruption. A few billion each would've actually sent a message and actually set the victims whole. Funny how the…

25% is a rather "normal" attorney fee award. You can argue they shouldn't get that much but remember that they have to eat the cost of prosecuting the case for a long time before seeing a dime. EDIT: I don't get the harsh downvoting. I'm unfamiliar with the particulars of the case but remember that not all class-actions end favourably for the lawyers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Civil_Action

How much of a financial hit do they really take? Apart from their salaries and associated office costs (covered by past cases presumably) what other costs do they have?

Their only excuse is that most businesses do the same thing. Payment processors, freelance agencies, telecoms providers etc, all taking extortionate cuts in relation to the costs incurred providing a service, which comes from our paychecks.

Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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Surprisingly uninformative article! If I recall correctly per-person damages are staggering $6500.

Staggering? I'd call it a pittance. The companies should've been fined much more to make an example out of them so no tech firm attempts something like this again.

Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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I commented on this a year ago or so: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8154909 My opinion on this is unchanged and I'm still disturbed by the greed behind this lawsuit.

I am more disturbed at the greed behind the original injustice. The tech companies should be punished, the greed of the plaintiffs is completely irrelevant.

Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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This conspiracy is by far the most intentionally evil thing tech companies have ever been caught doing. Also the worst thing Steve Jobs did in his life.

Jobs was a scumbag through and through... just one more check mark on stupid shit rich business people and their respective corporations can get away with in America most of the time. Even now it's a small sum for these companies, a few thousand dollars a person, much less than the actual pay lost due to corruption. A few billion each would've actually sent a message and actually set the victims whole. Funny how the…

Jobs was far from perfect. However, his contributions _far_ outweigh all his transgressions. The iPhone has (and will) ushered in an era of unimaginable prosperity for, in the coming years, literally the entire planet.

Whether or not his work could have been achieved without his faults is an open question. One which the counter factual isn't possible.

The key thing to remember is that there are no solutions, only trade offs. Jobs was an unedeniably overwhelmingly positive force on the world.

Re: U.S. judge approves $415M settlement in tech worker lawsuit

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Surprisingly uninformative article! If I recall correctly per-person damages are staggering $6500.

Staggering? I'd call it a pittance. The companies should've been fined much more to make an example out of them so no tech firm attempts something like this again.

Pretty sure thats a sarcastic use of the word staggering
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