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Re: Refugees Welcome

#131
>> Only then I realized that the way people live in Switzerland is not something you can take for granted and in the end made me move back.

I agree. I lived in Germany for 20 years, now I live in Zurich and can't be any happier. Check out my post "Eight reasons why I moved to Switzerland" https://medium.com/@iwaninzurich/eight-reasons-why-i-moved-t...

btw.: Switzerland also takes refugees, but because they want to, not because they are forced by the EU.

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Most Syrians supported Assad. Also, many of the militant revolutionaries were imported from other countries and supported/trained by foreign powers including the gulf states. Now we have ISIS which is simply an extension of that program that has maybe gotten a bit out of control. Foreign meddling caused this problem. Very simply.

> Most Syrians supported Assad. That's interesting. When exactly and according to what survey did most Syrians support Assad? Do they still support him today or if not, when did they stop?

Well there was this survey:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_presidential_election,_...

Also surveyed at that time were the million Syrian refugees living in Lebanon:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/05/28...

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#133
Is this the Arab-Spring ripple effect or should I say, aftermath?

This is a good Humanitarianism move, it eventually will boil down to education, job, welfare however, the government needs to be prepared.

Due to the huge inequality of birth rate among different races/religions, I foresee gradually the Arabic population will take over Europe, over probably one or two hundred years that is. Similar thing will happen in USA, with the Latino will become majority, over time that is.

It's all math and physics, the entropy and chaos theory, it's nature force.

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#134

I would like to see the US step up its process to accept refugees. Currently it takes 18 to 24 months for refuges to be able to get on a plane the US. The US has agreed to accept up to 70k refugees yet at this rate it will take for ever while Germany has hundreds of new refuges per day. [1] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/11/us-accept-thous...

We have our own continent to deal with. We already have hundreds of thousands of refugees coming to the US from central/south America every year. How many refugees are we supposed to accept anyway?

I didn't know there were any wars in South America, lately.

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post #133

Is this the Arab-Spring ripple effect or should I say, aftermath? This is a good Humanitarianism move, it eventually will boil down to education, job, welfare however, the government needs to be prepared. Due to the huge inequality of birth rate among different races/religions, I foresee gradually the Arabic population will take over Europe, over probably one or two hundred years that is. Similar thing will happen in…

Latino don't live in closed communities. The often marry and have kids with the other local communities and there is very little prejudice about that from both parts. The real separation between communities in this case is socio-economic.

With Muslims though, it's an all different story, so, yes, it will probably have social consequences in the future.

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What Europeans? Do you mean UK and France?

Pretty much every European country: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_European_coloni...

I think you meant some Western European countries. Because I don't see Slovenia, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Serbia, Romania, Poland, Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and probably others on that list. And I definitely don't see Switzerland. Europe doesn't mean the European Union (founders).

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It "amazes" me why these "refugees" flock to Germany or Great Britain and not to their very wealthy brethren in countries such as Kuwaii, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Arab Emirates, etc... Same culture, same religion and they are much closer! It also amazes me why the EU leaders insist for other European countries to accept these "refugees" when the majority of EU countries is not responsible for this situation at all…

Because those countries largely don't accept and accommodate refugees. There are no stigmas in countries like that against being racist or being against immigration like there are in Europe. Hell, those countries won't even take Palestinian refugees even though they will claim that Palestinians are suffering an oppressive occupation.

There is no stigma of being racist and antiimmigration in Europe too. Our whiny SJW are still in infancy.

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Sincerely. I'm European, I'm from Euro zone. I walk in the streets in my country's capital at night and a see dozens of homeless hungry people just by walking a couple of Km. I just can't put my head around on why we should help the refugees before we help our own people. It just doesn't make any sense to me. We are giving millions to find houses for these refugees/migrants but we let our own live and die on the stre…

Allowing refugees is a feel good band aid. Yes it does directly benefit those who gain asylum but it does nothing to help the majority left behind.

The real solution is to make positive changes in their homelands, bg force if necessary. This dilly dallying helps no one except radicals bent on violence and the corrupt regimes and Russia's meddling. Europe needs to do something. Sometimes you do need violence to make things better, world war two has left a deep scar on Europe which has made it overly cautious and allergic to necessarily addressing unjust violence.

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#139
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That's an ad hominem. Rather than debating the merits of his suggestion, you're attacking his person. Furthermore, it's not unreasonable for people living in one country to have opinions on the policies of others, especially when it's something like taking in refugees which has strong influences on a global scale.

He's not attacking his person and it's not ad-hominem, he's saying the guy is basically a moral hazard, he is advocating for policies here that he won't have to suffer the consequences of.

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"The recent waves or unchecked immigration has produced nothing but negative effects to the population..." Citation please.

Extremist/nationalist parties are on the rise pretty much everywhere in Europe. Isn't it usually a good indicator that people are greatly unhappy? Granted that immigration may not be the only factor it is the favorite theme of nationalist groups. Edit: I guess I'm being downvoted for not providing sources, my bad. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/20/world/europe/rise-of-far-r... http://wilsonquarterly.com/stories/what-…

I think it might be a good indicator that people are frightened, which is different.
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