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Post by cdash »

alkonaut wrote: post #114
saidajigumi wrote: post #41

Ugh, maybe this will finally push forums to burn those infernal Tapatalk interstitials. Forum owners: I'm looking for one piece of information from a web search, not a whole dumb app that will completely ignore my search goals.

Tapatalk splash is a sure sign of a phpBB forum, meaning I won't find what I'm looking for anyway. Close tab. I can't believe those forums don't just migrate to Discourse.

I just checked out discourse and honestly as a user I would rather use phpbb than that. Im sure discourse is a much better piece of software but I can not stand the format.

Re: Google Will Soon Start Punishing Mobile Sites that Use Annoying App Install Ads

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Post by nevir »

jacquesm wrote: post #37

Does that mean they'll block youtube? Try playing a video on a phone that does not have the youtube app installed, it's just about impossible to get it right, it's a roulette that's rigged with more than half the links going to the youtube app page on google play. Highly annoying since there is no reason why the youtube page of some video should even have that app installation link at all.

Yes, most likely they will downrank youtube until the youtube team fixes it

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Post by click170 »

roasm wrote: post #150
neoCrimeLabs wrote: post #71

This is a little curmudgeonly, but this is how I feel... If your developers are not capable of making your website mobible friendly in 2015, any app they develop is likely worse. This is especially true when your app demands access to everything on my phone even though it doesn't need any of it to function.

You're suggesting that you can make something as usable on a mobile browser as you can with a native app. That's just not true; if it were, there wouldn't be any native apps. For many use cases (games, highly interactive experiences, camera or microphone using app, etc.), a native app may just be better, and guiding users there might be a better experience and a better conversion funnel. Yes, you can make a website m…

> You're suggesting that you can make something as usable on a mobile browser as you can with a native app. That's just not true; if it were, there wouldn't be any native apps.

In the context of forums though, its entirely true and accurate.

If we were talking about apps, as in things that require more than an internet connection to work, I would agree with you.

Just because you can make it an app, doesn't mean you should.

Re: Google Will Soon Start Punishing Mobile Sites that Use Annoying App Install Ads

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

rubyn00bie wrote: post #157

tldr; Cool... but shouldn't google stop policing the internet and abusing, what some might call, monopoly powers for trivial gains. ====== I'd be willing to bet, this will one day be in an FTC/DOJ report about monopoly practices at Google... Google seems to have forgotten they don't want to be looked at as a monopoly or abusing their power for the small things. While this is consumer friendly, at least at first glanc…

This isn't an anti-trust issue. Google's not using its market dominance to move into a new market.

It's more like a common practice by retailers: using their market share to force changes by their suppliers. For example, Tesco (the largest UK supermarket) recently banned certain sugary drinks targeted at children.

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Post by knodi123 »

scrabble wrote: post #74
knodi123 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like it would, but the people who bounce probably aren't your most profitable users anyway. I was shocked to learn how effective interstitial popup subscription requests are: http://optinmonster.com/3-reasons-lightbox-popups-capture-mo...

This article is on a site that productizes this exact thing. Can't really take that on completely good faith.

Fair enough. That was just the first google result I clumsily found. However, the web department at my company found that an email signup interstitial 30 seconds after first page load increased our email signups by about 4x, without a noticeable impact on our profit margins.

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

georgemcbay wrote: post #167
jbigelow76 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what about an OS vendor that "curates" a particular default browser and destroys a competing browser provider in the process? I seem to remember that happening a few years back. It's not so much the curating that's the problem, nobody would care if Duck Duck Go did it, the problem is with the regulators that view Google to be the only curator out there.

The problem in the Microsoft case was use of near-monopoly in one market (operating systems) to gain unfair advantage in another market (browsers), though even that seems a bit outdated already since the idea of shipping an OS without a browser built-in seems ludicrous today. In any case, that concept of using monopoly power in one market to bolster power in another doesn't really apply here with Google. I share a lo…

> since the idea of shipping an OS without a browser built-in seems ludicrous today.

Windows 7 in Europe.

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Post by wodenokoto »

jacquesm wrote: post #37

Does that mean they'll block youtube? Try playing a video on a phone that does not have the youtube app installed, it's just about impossible to get it right, it's a roulette that's rigged with more than half the links going to the youtube app page on google play. Highly annoying since there is no reason why the youtube page of some video should even have that app installation link at all.

Is that an android thing? I only have iOS and cannot recognize that at all.

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Post by feld »

Retra wrote: post #89
volaski wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more annoyed with these sites than the app install sites. "Install our app" is annoying but still trying their best to send us where we will have better have better experience (at least that's what they think). These "subscribe to our newsletter" sites do it for their own good and couldn't care less about visitors. They do it so they can spam them with their emails

They should send the better experience to where you are.

They'll never learn

Re: Google Will Soon Start Punishing Mobile Sites that Use Annoying App Install Ads

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

jacquesm wrote: post #37

Does that mean they'll block youtube? Try playing a video on a phone that does not have the youtube app installed, it's just about impossible to get it right, it's a roulette that's rigged with more than half the links going to the youtube app page on google play. Highly annoying since there is no reason why the youtube page of some video should even have that app installation link at all.

Also Gmail just after you log in. Don't know if that counts. The link to skip is tiny and looks like a privacy notice link.
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