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Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Post by Pyrodogg »

iMark wrote: post #12

I would happily pay a monthly fee to never see another advert.

As a gainfully employed adult, i'd also pay for a reasonable service that would give me content that I want with less annoyances.

If I were still a teen or even a low-income college student, I'd still be exploiting all the things to get content for free.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Post by lern_too_spel »

anonbanker wrote: post #25

YouTube is ripe for disruption. They added annoying commercials so they could charge you to take them away again. Nowadays, I use youtube-dl and kodi more than the actual site. It'd be a few night's work to create a pulsar provider for at least the most popular videos on the site, and ads could be completely avoided.

Whether to show ads or not is the content creators' choice. My YouTube channels are ad-free. I don't get paid for my videos, but I don't care because I don't rely on YouTube as a source of income. On the other hand, I invest little time and no money in my channels, unlike the YouTubers who create content professionally.

How would you like it if you weren't paid for your work? At least now, YouTube is giving you a choice in how to compensate the creators.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Post by tyho »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #42
anonbanker wrote: post #25

YouTube is ripe for disruption. They added annoying commercials so they could charge you to take them away again. Nowadays, I use youtube-dl and kodi more than the actual site. It'd be a few night's work to create a pulsar provider for at least the most popular videos on the site, and ads could be completely avoided.

Whether to show ads or not is the content creators' choice. My YouTube channels are ad-free. I don't get paid for my videos, but I don't care because I don't rely on YouTube as a source of income. On the other hand, I invest little time and no money in my channels, unlike the YouTubers who create content professionally. How would you like it if you weren't paid for your work? At least now, YouTube is giving you a cho…

There is no inherent reason why a person should be paid for work. In the tech sector if you can't effectively monetize the work you do then the attitude is very much "well do something else then", but for some reason media people seem to think that when they cannot monetize their work it is the fault of the consumer, not themselves. Some business models were just never meant to be, politely asking random people to download large adverts and watch them for example.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Post by grubles »

grimgrin wrote: post #34
mahouse wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see such option

Another comment said you can only use this feature within the YouTube app with a Google Play subscription. Makes sense, as I cannot find the option anywhere.

I meant to include this: you need a Music Key subscription in order to play videos in the background with the Android Youtube app.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Post by walterbell »

icebraining wrote: post #40
walterbell wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a long history behind the collective implementation failure of "Do Not Track". The point is that there was stakeholder demand for the feature, even if the demand was to avoid regulation, or even if the implementation was botched.

Which stackholders? I've never seen demand for DNT by the advertisers, it was an initiative by two researchers working for Mozilla and the ACLU, and which was then taken on by the W3C. From what I can tell, the industry mostly ignored it.

https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/10854/the-failure-of-do-not-tra...

"We first met to discuss Do Not Track over 2 years ago. We have now held 10 in-person meetings and 78 conference calls. We have exchanged 7,148 emails. And those boggling figures reflect just the official fora."

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Post by danpeddle »

fenomas wrote: post #7
lucb1e wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have an account or store Google's tracking cookies.

How would a website let you customize its default options without an account or cookies?

localStorage works quite well for this - the main difference being that data is not sent to the server when you make a request, as cookies are.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Post by icebraining »

walterbell wrote: post #45
icebraining wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which stackholders? I've never seen demand for DNT by the advertisers, it was an initiative by two researchers working for Mozilla and the ACLU, and which was then taken on by the W3C. From what I can tell, the industry mostly ignored it.

https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/10854/the-failure-of-do-not-tra... "We first met to discuss Do Not Track over 2 years ago. We have now held 10 in-person meetings and 78 conference calls. We have exchanged 7,148 emails. And those boggling figures reflect just the official fora."

From what I can tell, an initiative by some consumer advocates (under the umbrella of the W3C) made enough noise and got a few people from some companies to join a mailing list and do a few conference calls. Most of the major ad companies (Quantcast, KISSMetrics, etc) didn't even join the group. Predictably, since the industry has no interest in advancing the issue, the group died without achieving anything.

That post just reinforces my view, in my opinion.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Post by teddyh »

iMark wrote: post #12

I would happily pay a monthly fee to never see another advert.

“It’s a gigantic social phenomenon. People find ways of getting money by impeding society. Once they can impede society, they can be paid to leave people alone.”

— Richard Stallman, 1986 (http://www.gnu.org/gnu/byte-interview)

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