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Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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You would confuse like 20% of your users to add a feature that < 0.01% want?

There's a micro-industry of journalists who teach users how to express their consent, even if vendors use a dark-pattern privacy UX. If less than 0.01% know to request a non-existent option, more may choose that option once it exists and they have been educated on the benefits. Witness the rise of ad-blocking and past industry attempts like "Do Not Track" and "Do Not Call".

Ad Blocking stops ads from being shoved in your face. There's an obvious and immediate benefit to every user who tries it.

Do Not Call stops annoying phone calls from interrupting you. Again, people demand it, because it makes a real difference in their lives.

Do Not Track, on the other hand, seems to be a total flop. (In FireFox, 8% adoption rate and falling; in other browsers, presumably even worse.) I don't see how you could refer to "the rise of Do Not Track" with a straight face. This is due in large part to the fact that the vast majority of people aren't particularly interested in making the ads they see less relevant and don't really care about whether a website is giving them an anonymous cookie.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a micro-industry of journalists who teach users how to express their consent, even if vendors use a dark-pattern privacy UX. If less than 0.01% know to request a non-existent option, more may choose that option once it exists and they have been educated on the benefits. Witness the rise of ad-blocking and past industry attempts like "Do Not Track" and "Do Not Call".

Ad Blocking stops ads from being shoved in your face. There's an obvious and immediate benefit to every user who tries it. Do Not Call stops annoying phone calls from interrupting you. Again, people demand it, because it makes a real difference in their lives. Do Not Track, on the other hand, seems to be a total flop. (In FireFox, 8% adoption rate and falling; in other browsers, presumably even worse.) I don't see ho…

There's a long history behind the collective implementation failure of "Do Not Track". The point is that there was stakeholder demand for the feature, even if the demand was to avoid regulation, or even if the implementation was botched.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Have been using MusicKey for the last few months with my Google Play subscription, it's changed how I listen to music where it's now almost exclusively through YouTube.

When music videos had ads I couldn't make it through to 2 music videos without being annoyed by intrusive ads which kills the music listening experience, ad-free music is now the most valued part of my Google Play subscription.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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YouTube is ripe for disruption. They added annoying commercials so they could charge you to take them away again.

Nowadays, I use youtube-dl and kodi more than the actual site. It'd be a few night's work to create a pulsar provider for at least the most popular videos on the site, and ads could be completely avoided.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Am I wrong in thinking that paywalling videos is going to cut viewership for those videos by several orders of magnitude? Not good for, say, a band trying to build a fanbase.

No. You're completely correct. Artists will hopefully see the writing on the wall.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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The problem with Youtube as a music platform is the mobile app. Minimizing the app to do another task (like replying to a text) stops the video from playing and in turn stops the audio from playing. If they allow it to play in the background then a lot more people would use it as their music source.

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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Annotations can already be disabled by default: https://www.youtube.com/account_playback

Those settings are reset at random. I don't know what triggers it. Really irritating with those bad defaults anyway.

I found that deleting cookies resets that setting (just like turned off autoplay, "worldwide" region settings and the like are reset).

They don't seem to be tied to your account (so they'd be reinstated when you log in)... :/

Re: YouTube is preparing to launch two subscription services

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post #28

The problem with Youtube as a music platform is the mobile app. Minimizing the app to do another task (like replying to a text) stops the video from playing and in turn stops the audio from playing. If they allow it to play in the background then a lot more people would use it as their music source.

They do - If you have a Google Play Music subscription. That enables the option to continue playing videos in the background, though I believe you have to set it in the settings page.
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