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Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013)

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Re: Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013)

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> 2) No client-side scripts If your website cannot be viewed properly with Javascript disabled, it is broken.

Completely disagree with this one. The web has evolved into a landscape that exceeds its original intended use. It's not just about semantic documents any more - its community, interaction, and more in the most portable format we've ever seen.

The web has taken on a life of its own, beyond what it was initially designed for.

Re: Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013)

#42

Just found this: http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ I think it passes on all points.

http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com Unsure is it better, should check on more devices/systems/browsers.

I'd say it is better. The first one is very uncomfortable to read in a full-screen/maximized-window browser on a widescreen, and mine is only 1080p.

I think it's a great counterexample of the point it's trying to make. Of course is a satire, and the author probably would add a bit of design in a "real" web site.

Re: Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013)

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post #30

"If you are trying to make a web application, just stop. Build a native application. It's nicer for everyone." <-- On which platforms? Windows + iOS + Android + OS X + ...? Or, I could just make it a web application. Not a hard choice. This point was ill-considered.

exactly - doesn't that sound nicer for everyone?

Re: Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013)

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post #2

That seems quite excessive and only applicable for web sites that display articles. Amazon without javascript and multi-column pages would be unbearable. Ad-supported content is fine and keeps the web free, as long as ads are sufficiently on-topic and unobtrusive (sponsored posts, light banners à la The Deck, native advertising...). Also, the fact that the page is unreadable without either using a custom CSS or resiz…

Browsing amazon without css seem to be an improvement in Firefox, as Amazon seems to do something in the background that basically chokes the render engine.

Re: Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013)

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it not better to specify max-width in ems? body { max-width: 35em; } That way, if the user makes the text very large, the entire width of the window will be used.

This probably depends on the browser but Safari, for example, scales inches (and centimetres) with the zoom level, so the result is probably the same. I don't like em and rem much as they do not really reflect the actual size in tangible units, but that is largely a personal preference.

What if the user changes the font size with CSS?

Re: Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013)

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post #11

This article is suggesting not using any js library, no XMLHttpRequests, no single-page aps. Just go back to 1990?

Is it really that bad? Most of the web is about reading content , and this is where all points on the page shine. I agree with basically everything on that page. In fact, we built fully-fledged browser extensions to override website's choices in fonts, colors and whatnot (point 1). We build extensions to kill js by default (point 2). We increasingly disable plugins by default (point 3). We have extensions to block ad…

I do agree as well.

Re: Anti-Web-Design Manifesto (2013)

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This probably depends on the browser but Safari, for example, scales inches (and centimetres) with the zoom level, so the result is probably the same. I don't like em and rem much as they do not really reflect the actual size in tangible units, but that is largely a personal preference.

What if the user changes the font size with CSS?

That is a valid point. Although I think that if you are modifying CSS then you either know exactly what you are doing, or disabling it altogether and replacing it with your own stylesheet. I think that there is quite a lot of stuff that will break if you increase the font size too much.

I'll play with it a little bit more, the ems might be a better solution after all.

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