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Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Post by michaelbuckbee »

phamilton wrote: post #15

For anyone interested in the definition of "essential", see the source code: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/... (See constants) and https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/... (See ShouldThrottleContent) TLDR, essential content is either: 1) On the same domain as the page 2) Considered "Large" (at least 298 x 398, certain aspect ratio, minimum total area), with an exce…

The only other regular 'tiny content' thing I can think of is ZeroClipboard (which puts an invisible flash movie over a button so you can click 'copy') as Javascript clipboard actions still aren't broadly supported [2].

ZeroClipboard is used by Github and lots of other sites for the little buttons next to repo URLs, etc.

1 - https://github.com/zeroclipboard/zeroclipboard 2 - http://caniuse.com/#search=clipboard

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Post by paulirish »

archon810 wrote: post #6

The irony is that while they recommend converting ads to html5 (or auto convert them with swiffy), the performance goes to shit as well, arguably even worse than flash would have been, at least on mobile. - http://venturebeat.com/2015/02/25/google-now-automatically-c... - https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=467709 - https://plus.google.com/+ArtemRussakovskii/posts/MtcZGJprWje

Swiffy has been getting massive improvements recently, so expect perf wins in this area.

That said, two of the biggest web browsers have not natively supported flash ads for years. So I'm puzzled that ads are still being produced in 2015 for a dying runtime.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Post by dredmorbius »

pjmlp wrote: post #22

I can already disable flash ads. Good luck disabling HTML 5 ads without browser plugins support.

I've gotten high mileage by blocking OVPs directly. I'm advocating doing this to encourage video providers to NOT enable autoplay on video.

    0.0.0.0			www.autofixinfo.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			c.brightcove.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			player.theplatform.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			link.theplatform.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ci-2862d2c8d6-68f418d2.http.atlas.cdn.yimg.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			video-img2.thedailymeal.net	# Autoplay audio
    0.0.0.0			ht1.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ht2.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ht3.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ht4.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ht5.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ht6.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ht7.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ht8.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
    0.0.0.0			ht9.cdn.turner.com	# Autoplay video
Protip: install dnsmasq which allows you to block entire domains rather than listing hosts independently.

(Note: corrected s/VPN/OVP, see followup.)

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Post by dogma1138 »

I got plugins disabled by default in Chrome for ages now (right click run plugin when needed).

Before that on FF i had an add on that disabled autorun for flash also (very similar to how chrome does it with plugins gotta right click to load it).

But if Google does it only for none Google adnetworks that's going to be a huge lawsuit. The article doesn't really clarify why would it work on Google own networks because they convert to HTML5 or because they will white list their own stuff.

TBH we could've gotten rid of Flash years ago, Google was actually a big supporter for Flash, it was very important for them at some point in time, Google Chat, Gmail Extensions, Google Wave, and most importantly getting high bit rate video on YouTube off the ground (DXVA, OpenGL support was critical for YouTube and every other streaming site out-there), and heck Google promoted Flash on Android until JB as their big gotcha over Apple..

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Post by dredmorbius »

jakob223 wrote: post #7
arghbleargh wrote: post #4

So... can somebody explain what the difference between "essential" and "non-essential" Flash content is, and how Chrome can tell the difference?

According to the article, it's based on whether it's the "main" object on the page. Size and centeredness both play a role, I'd guess.

So, say, a browser plugin which renamed "main" elements to, oh, say, "notmain", would have the effect of killing autoplay.

Though for Flash that's already possible. It's HTML5 that's bugging the shit out of me now.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Post by tarikjn »

bduerst wrote: post #14
JohnTHaller wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're free to disable flash on your own system right now. Always have been.

Sure. Now I'm enabling it again just to access a website that requires flash because we haven't thrown it out yet. /web standards

Check out the Flashcontrol extension on Chrome. It does a good job of giving you control on this.
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