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The Tomb of Queen Esther in Persia

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Re: The Tomb of Queen Esther in Persia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The old Persians were one of the major tribes who lived in the Iranian plateau circa 1000 BCE.

"Persian" is a historical mistake started by Herodotus, Iran was Iran from the begining. start to learn the proper name after a long time 2500+ years is a long time.

Are you saying "Iranian" is the correct term for all the people living in past and present day Iran? Because that's...wrong.

Re: The Tomb of Queen Esther in Persia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The old Persians were one of the major tribes who lived in the Iranian plateau circa 1000 BCE.

"Persian" is a historical mistake started by Herodotus, Iran was Iran from the begining. start to learn the proper name after a long time 2500+ years is a long time.

You are correct that Iran has always been called Iran (Eraan).

Persians refer to the sub-set of Aryanman of Eran-Zameen ["Land of Arya"] that settled in the general area of the province of Fars (Perse) and after the overthrow of the Median Aryanman (likely forefathers of the Kurds) ascended the world stage [1].

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[1]: http://www.iranchamber.com/history/darius/darius_inscription...

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My grandparents/dad/uncle lived in Tehran in the 50s. They always had such wonderful things to say about the people and the culture and the art. Today, in the US, the Iranians I talk to say "we hope one day it will again be a country we would want to live in."

I hope they will live there too. I look forward to the day where repatriation occurs en masse from the US. I think it would allow the return of intelligentsia as well skill labor to areas that sorely need it. While I admit there will be a loss for the US, I doubt that whole extended families will up and leave. In the end, I hope that it will lead to a better understanding and camaraderie for US and formerly hostile countries.

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I think of Iran as desert (a particularly beautiful one, judging from the pictures), but I can't imagine Persia having the resources from a desert to become a world power. Was the area of Iran always a desert?

Ancient Iranians were hackers in the best sense [1], and experts at long range transport of water. Water was conveyed from the Alborz mountain range all the way to the south. The mongols destroyed much of this network (that was still functional after a thousand years) and that pretty much put an end to verdant growth in the central and easter regions.

[1]: https://youtu.be/k6cmvM5oj3Q

Re: The Tomb of Queen Esther in Persia

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What a nice surprise to see 'Poemas del río Wang' blog on HN. Top notch writing and they also do guided trips.

Previous posts from there:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8200913

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8109981

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3426855

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2480543

Re: The Tomb of Queen Esther in Persia

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Relations between the two tribes go back at least 3000 years if not earlier. (The city of Rages, then Ray, and now a suburb of Teheran, apparently had a substantial Jewish community during the Median period, per Book of Tobit [2]) Typically quite friendly and simpatico. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomb_of_Daniel [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Tobit

Many of the features of Second Temple Judaism (and hence Christianity) were thought to have been influenced by Zoroastrianism, from the time of the Babylonian Captivity onwards.

Re: The Tomb of Queen Esther in Persia

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This is nice and all but why on HN?

In addition to koenigdavidmj's correct answer, maybe I'll repeat something I posted yesterday:

If there's something we could do to get more high-quality links posted about history, arts and letters, geography, anthropology, etc.—the myriads of interesting stories outside HN's couple of core grooves—I would love to hear about it. We rarely have enough of those.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10127481

Re: The Tomb of Queen Esther in Persia

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What a nice surprise to see 'Poemas del río Wang' blog on HN. Top notch writing and they also do guided trips.

Can you link me to their guided trips? What exactly are they? I could not figure it out. A humanist society that translates book!?

The blogger at Poemas del río Wang is a personal friend of mine. (Sometimes I also write for his blog.) By profession he is a translator and art historian, a Hungarian by birth living in Berlin. I have gone on many of his tours, and travelled with him personally as well. I can unreservedly recommend his tours, but they fill up quickly. Most of the participants are Hungarian speakers, but he can translate on the fly into English, and other languages, too.

A link to his upcoming Iran trip: http://riowang.blogspot.cz/2015/08/come-with-us-to-iran.html

Incidentally, I wanted to go on this trip, but as a US passport holder, I would not be free to go wherever I want without an Iranian-appointed guide on a limited itinerary (at least as I understand the situation).

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