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Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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This is offtopic but the video of peoples reaction using the 'insane' button in the Model S P85D was some really great marketing for Tesla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaLgF1uLB8 The feature is a novelty but it makes for great social media bait. I never share links about cars with family/friends but I felt compelled to this time. It's entertaining because the car is completely silent while it pins them back in t…

> great marketing for Tesla Yeah, until someone dies from this sort of reckless driving.

> Yeah, until someone dies from this sort of reckless driving.

If you're on a 55 mph road, is it reckless to accelerate quickly to 55 mph?

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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The way the little girl's phone sticks to the back seat after pulling out of her hands is just priceless.

At risk of being a downer in response to a light hearted video and comment, I've read that smartphones can become dangerous projectiles during car accidents. Imagine the speed they could travel at a very sudden stop. Posing a pretty big risk to people in front of them, not to mention themselves. In this video the phone nearly smacked the girl in the face. After reading that I always make sure to check my phone on my…

I believe mythbusters did a similar segment on this.

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/08/mythbusters_killer_tissue...

I don't believe they found that something the size and weight of a phone could be fatal, given the fire extinguisher that weighed 1kg didn't do much damage.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Well, that depends. Are you counting the sum of all of the time you spend waiting for the car to recharge/refill? If so, and if you're a typical driver, then the Tesla wins. In an average month, you might spend a total of 15 minutes gassing up your car, and zero minutes charging your Tesla (because it's charging while you sleep). On road trips, it will depend on how well charging stops coincide with bathroom/meal/cof…

I understand that argument and the stats suggest most people don't need to charge on the road aside from road trips. By the time the Model S would need charged I'd be ready for a 30 minute break anyway. I still have range anxiety when my commute (before going remote) was a minimum of 120 miles per day. I'm not sure how accurate the 200 mile number is to know if it would be enough.

If your commute is 120 miles, you don't need a Tesla, you need a new place. Whatever the value of quick refueling, surely your sanity is more important.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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When it comes to in-car controls, you want to be able to use them without taking your eyes off the road. To this end, knobs that you can grasp for and feel the current setting are great. Knobs without a tactile indication of the current setting are OK, as you can find them without looking and only glance down to see that you are selecting the appropriate setting. Buttons are worse because you have to glance down to f…

> All of this looking at the screen means your eyes aren't on the road where they belong. ... which is why the HUD (for velocity, navigation) in my 6 years old BMW is my favourite feature. I don't understand why so few manufacturers offer one.

Patents?

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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People with situations like yours (bad parking situation, like to drive long trips along unpopular routes) sure like to complain about it on HN. Not sure if it adds anything to the discussion about the customers Tesla needs to convince to make them successful in the next year or two. BTW, different people have different likes and dislikes about car interiors. Sounds like you should buy a car you like.

Of course. I fully recognize that the Tesla is a great car for a lot of people. I take issue, though, when those people start saying that it's so much better than other cars, pointing out the ways in which the Tesla is better but ignoring the ways in which the Tesla is worse.

And do you find that such postings lead to productive discussions? Because it causes the same discussion every time. And every car has both pluses and minuses.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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> great marketing for Tesla Yeah, until someone dies from this sort of reckless driving.

> Yeah, until someone dies from this sort of reckless driving. If you're on a 55 mph road, is it reckless to accelerate quickly to 55 mph?

> If you're on a 55 mph road, is it reckless to accelerate quickly to 55 mph?

I could be considered reckless in the right circumstances. There are other people to consider.

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right. not a car guy, yet you're on the internet arguing about cars, which is awfully strange.

Ok, you really are lost. You know this isn't a car forum right? What is so confusing here? You sound like a dickhead "not in the car scene" How annoyingly, needlessly pretentious is that? The fact you say "car scene" on the internet makes you 200x more oblivious then what you're accusing him of being. Fucking car scene? Fucking weirdos, man!

well, you're right in that i'm kind of a dickhead.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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> "With a normal car, you have to worry about how much gas you have, when and where you'll stop to fill up " Okay, people might exaggerate "range anxiety" on the Teslas. But you're definitely reaching here: when and where to fill up a gasoline car? How about 24 hours a day on almost any street corner in the country. Running out of fuel isn't even on the radar.

Driving at 1 AM from Plattsburgh, NY to Albany, NY, I did worry about whether I would run out of fuel. Including seeing an exit sign for a gas station, and driving a mile out the exit only to find it was closed, only to turn around and get back on the highway with fuel running low. Driving from Youngstown, Ohio to Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania at 1 AM, I also worried about running out of fuel. People I know who travel a…

True, even gas stations don't have 100% coverage, but it's much, much better than EV charger coverage. Imagine you had a Tesla that was running out of power in those situations you mentioned: do you think it would have been easier to find a charging station that it was to find a gas station?

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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When it comes to in-car controls, you want to be able to use them without taking your eyes off the road. To this end, knobs that you can grasp for and feel the current setting are great. Knobs without a tactile indication of the current setting are OK, as you can find them without looking and only glance down to see that you are selecting the appropriate setting. Buttons are worse because you have to glance down to f…

Tesla has steering wheel (physical) controls that map to Radio, AC, etc.

Which is even better than a physical knob you have to remove your hand from the steering wheel to operate.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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There is many reasons, but major for me is that you need to look at the screen when switching AC, performing simple tasks. With regular buttons you can memorize where is what and not look at them when switching options which increases the safety. Also large screen is distracting, BMW 7 focuses on driving and comfort removing from in front of your eyes anything that could tire your eyes.

I've never been inside a Tesla, but I've driven a few thousand miles in a (rented) BMW, and I would really be very surprised if Tesla could beat BMW in the "pure, crystallized-shit of UX" department. iDrive is an abomination.

A year ago I was testing out a bunch of different cars for longer periods of time, and I found that the BMW was the least bad infotainment system. It's ok. Everyone else is just worse.

Cadillac Cue is rage-inducingly bad, I would love to see your reactions to that if you think IDrive is an abomination. :-)

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