PHP in a JavaScript world
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PHP in a JavaScript world
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Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#2Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm...
These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps".
As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#3Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm... These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps". As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
PHP was cool in the pre-SaaS era, where the only "cloudy" thing was renting webspace or server. You had to install and manage your Wordpress and co. yourself.
I think >99% of the people who wanted a website (blog/forum/etc) had to call an IT guy to get this running.
Now they just have to register for a SaaS and the most technical they have to do, is linking their domain to it.
Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#4Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm... These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps". As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
I 100% agree. That's what keep PHP so popular.
Similarly, Rails made Ruby popular.
(I won't call phabricator a "vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools")
Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#5Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm... These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps". As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#6Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm... These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps". As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
PHP was cool in the pre-SaaS era, where the only "cloudy" thing was renting webspace or server. You had to install and manage your Wordpress and co. yourself. I think >99% of the people who wanted a website (blog/forum/etc) had to call an IT guy to get this running. Now they just have to register for a SaaS and the most technical they have to do, is linking their domain to it.
I think 99% of the people wanted to link a domain to it, had to call an IT guy.
Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#7Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm... These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps". As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
Personally, I'd say that the front-end tooling ecosystem constitutes the "killer app":
- Minification: Uglify
- Transpilation: Babel/TypeScript/CoffeeScript
- JS Module Systems: Require/Browserify/Webpack/JSPM
- CSS preprocessors: Less/Sass/Stylus
- Linting: JSHint/ESLint/CSSLint
If you're using a lot of front-end tools, you're using Node. And if you're using Node, you might as well use it to write your APIs.
Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#8Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm... These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps". As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
https://ghost.org/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10127715
"I will be honest. I use ghost as my blogging platform for about a year, and in comparison to wordpress... it just doesn't hold up. Everything from stuff as big as upgrading, mid range as plugins, and even simple things like spell check were overlooked (at least in the version I have). It kind of reminds me of the Pepsi Vs. Coke test. Went to it for that initial appeal of simplicity.. and now am very dissatisfied due to how much its lacking."
Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#9Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm... These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps". As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
PHP today is overwhelmingly being used to augment/modify:
> Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm...
Very few apps are built from scratch using PHP unless the intention is to share the application code like wordpress, drupal, etc.
On Node, you're almost always building from scratch, rather than creating plugins for an existing application.
Apples and oranges. Different use cases.
Re: PHP in a JavaScript world
#10Wordpress, drupal, magento, phabricator, mediawiki, sugarcrm... These are vastly popular, feature rich out of the box tools in PHP, aka the "killer apps". As I don't follow the node community, what are the killer apps on the node side? Im talking about a complete piece of software, where I would want to set up an environment not for development but for running an application.
https://ghost.org/
It's not open source, i cannot checkout it and start building something with it...