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Re: Amazon Underground

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Post by jon-wood »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #92
hosh wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's less Google Play and more breaking the control Google has over the Android platform, despite Android being open-source and spread out across a number of manufacturers. Google Play is a critical piece of that control. The ads look like a way to defray that cost. I wonder what Samsung will try to do. Something similar or something from out of their own playbook?

Does Amazon actually provide compelling apps on their store? The comments here and this new advertising platform would suggest otherwise.

Amazon's app store is a cesspit, full of either very similarly named Apps to ones on the play store, but that do something different, or people just straight up stealing other people's Apps and selling them themselves.

Re: Amazon Underground

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Post by grogenaut »

sahaj wrote: post #14

One problem with Amazon App Store on Android phones is that if I replace my Android phone, I have to start all over again. Using the Google ecosystem, it's a matter of signing in and all my backed up apps and data are reinstated. There's a lot more friction to keep using the Amazon App Store/Underground app than there is with Google Play Store.

untrue, you re-add the amazon app store and your apps are back. Google also recently changed it so it doesn't force reinstall everything, you choose what you want re-installed. Or at least it did in 5.2. I actually prefer it as some apps are garbage

Re: Amazon Underground

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Post by alblue »

This Trojan horse gives Amazon complete control of your device, from network connections to cameras to data.

But don't look at that! Free shiny! Pay no attention to the virus behind the curtain.

Re: Amazon Underground

#107

Post by jsprogrammer »

austenallred wrote: post #93
jsprogrammer wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never seen an interstitial on HN. Have you?

So, it's free unless there's an interstitial ad? That seems like an awfully random place to draw the line.

It's free if I suffer no cost. Do you bait and then throw up some monstrosity of an ad in a forced attempt to brainwash me? Or, maybe you don't bait and just force me to watch the ad. Either way, I suffer some cost, in the very least in having to detect the attempt and retreat from your page.

To act like that is not a real cost is...baffling.

Re: Amazon Underground

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Post by austenallred »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #107
austenallred wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, it's free unless there's an interstitial ad? That seems like an awfully random place to draw the line.

It's free if I suffer no cost. Do you bait and then throw up some monstrosity of an ad in a forced attempt to brainwash me? Or, maybe you don't bait and just force me to watch the ad. Either way, I suffer some cost, in the very least in having to detect the attempt and retreat from your page. To act like that is not a real cost is...baffling.

It's not that that's not a real cost. Is that you don't include intangible things such as time and emotions when determining if something is free, by any expected usage of the word.

Re: Amazon Underground

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Post by hyperpallium »

What is security like on Amazon's appstore? It has all-encompassing permissions.

always online? Must the apps be used online, for monitoring usage and downloading ads - or can they be run offline, with the Amazon appstore app uploading stats/downloading ads when connected? (I ask this because I run games in "airport mode" and "stop" them afterwards, as a security measure, having been burned).

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