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Re: Amazon Underground

#21
> Actually free

I'm feeling a bit sad that I'm overjoyed to hear that this category exists.

Paid, Free, Actually free

I like how they explain up-front that they pay the authors instead of perhaps another hidden payment model within 'Actually free' that ends up charging users.

Re: Amazon Underground

#22
post #12

Took me a minute to find out what "actually free" means: https://developer.amazon.com/public/solutions/underground/do... "Interstitial Advertisements When a user launches an Amazon Underground app for the first time, a welcome message in the form of an interstitial ad plays. In subsequent times that a user either launches or resumes the app, paid interstitial ads will also sometimes play." Interesting. So amazon deal…

Finally, someone figures out the real reason Amazon is doing this. Thank you for doing the job all the journalists reporting on the press release failed to do.

Re: Amazon Underground

#23

Is the reason Amazon isn't releasing this for iOS because of Apple's closed ecosystem or is Google just a bigger competitive threat?

Amazon's own OS is a fork of Android, and the Amazon Appstore consists almost entirely of Android apps you could also get through Google Play. So it makes sense they'd do it for just Android.

Re: Amazon Underground

#24
Isn't this the same model that funds most websites? Zero cost in exchange for advertising and, I'm guessing, giving up your private information - with all the positives and negatives associated with that model.

I'm too lazy to check: Does Amazon say what private info is collected? Info on phones can be much more personal and more accessible to other applications.

Re: Amazon Underground

#25
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I see this as hugely superior to the freemium model, both from the perspective of the user and the app developers. App developers no longer need to cripple their apps and sell in-app band-aids to make money. The developers of the more entertaining and engaging apps will make more money. End users no longer spend a bunch of time on a game only to find out they need to pay to advance to the next part, or bypass some ar…

This model comes with a few problems:

1) High quality games that are meant to be completed quickly will make less money relative to poor quality games that stretch out gameplay.

2) Developers become incentivized to stretch out gameplay to increase revenue.

3) Amazon Underground is covering the costs for now. But if users were asked to pay themselves, I'm sure many would balk at the idea of paying per-minute to play games.

All that aside, this is an interesting idea. I could see episodic games particularly benefiting from this model -- so long as they don't fall into the trap of stretching out gameplay to increase revenue.

Re: Amazon Underground

#27
post #21

> Actually free I'm feeling a bit sad that I'm overjoyed to hear that this category exists. Paid, Free, Actually free I like how they explain up-front that they pay the authors instead of perhaps another hidden payment model within 'Actually free' that ends up charging users.

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Re: Amazon Underground

#28
post #12

Took me a minute to find out what "actually free" means: https://developer.amazon.com/public/solutions/underground/do... "Interstitial Advertisements When a user launches an Amazon Underground app for the first time, a welcome message in the form of an interstitial ad plays. In subsequent times that a user either launches or resumes the app, paid interstitial ads will also sometimes play." Interesting. So amazon deal…

Finally, someone figures out the real reason Amazon is doing this. Thank you for doing the job all the journalists reporting on the press release failed to do.

If ^ is true, why does amazon feel the need to disclose this at all? Seems like a weird set of words that either displays culture or product. They could easily say nothing and sign the same deal.

Re: Amazon Underground

#29
post #21

> Actually free I'm feeling a bit sad that I'm overjoyed to hear that this category exists. Paid, Free, Actually free I like how they explain up-front that they pay the authors instead of perhaps another hidden payment model within 'Actually free' that ends up charging users.

Nothing surprising after a decade of unlimited internet under specified limit.

Re: Amazon Underground

#30
post #18

Is the reason Amazon isn't releasing this for iOS because of Apple's closed ecosystem or is Google just a bigger competitive threat?

iOS doesn't allow apps to be installed outside a few apple controlled processes without a JailBreak. I don't think Amazon would want to launch a product dependent on JailBreaking. Unless Apple is forced to provide an API for alternative app stores, I can't see this ever being allowed. Unless of course apple rips off the idea and does it themselves.

Could Apple take legal action if Amazon were to try that? (hypothetically of course)
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