Man's eye saved by stem cells

Post by taranfx » Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 1:59 PM UTC

Post by jacquesm » Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 3:58 PM UTC

Post by jacquesm » Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 4:13 PM UTC

AndrewHampton wrote: post #4

jacquesm wrote: post #3

I wonder if those that blindly (pun intended) jumped on the 'no to stemcell research' bandwagon a few years ago are already feeling a bit guilty or not. The obvious possibilities of stem cell research were so vast that I was really surprised at the level of support this Luddite stance received.

I think most of the people on the 'no to stemcell research' bandwagon are more specifically against embryonic stem cell research. This was accomplished using 'adult stem cells' from the man's other eye, which I don't think many people have an issue with.

Post by jacquesm » Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 5:43 PM UTC

prewett wrote: post #6

jacquesm wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The stem cell research ban was technically on embryonic stem cell research only (and from what I remember lines that already existed were 'exempt'), but that does not change the fact that researchers using any stemcells at all found their chances of getting funding drastically reduced. There are afaik three sources of stem cells, adult ones, embryonic ones and stem cells taken from umbilical cord tissue. The ban itse…

As I understand it, embryonic stem cells (the ones that were banned) are acquired by basically destroying a human embryo. I don't think it is "very bad mixing up of religion and politics" to ban destroying what can be considered a life. You might disagree whether the life is worth saving, but the embryo is undeniably living. You might disagree as to whether a human embryo is human enough that killing it constitutes k…

Post by jacquesm » Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 7:50 PM UTC

patio11 wrote: post #8

jacquesm wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understand it those embryos were going to be destroyed anyway. The difference being that now they might be used to further research. It's not like the embryos were created to be destroyed for research, they're a by-product of fertility enhancing procedures.

In the interest of empathizing with the other side, here's what this sounds like if you're pro-life: "As I understand it, there were Africans who were going to die in Africa anyhow. The difference being that now we might get some use out of them. Its not like we went to Africa for the slaves, they're just a by-product of the resource exploitation."