Debian GNU/Hurd Status Update [pdf]

Post by vezzy-fnord » Tue, Aug 25, 2015, 11:42 PM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #30

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can either follow my guide [1] based on updated cross-gnu scripts, or try out gnuxc [2] for bootstrapping a full Hurd distribution, with the caveat that it requires your host to be Fedora. [1] http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/07/25/0/ [2] https://github.com/dm0-/gnuxc

I found this bit in your post interesting: "kdbus (which was called “neutered Mach IPC” by Neal Walfield)" - does that mean mach ipc provides typed interface registration / binding between userland processes? I admit, I know very little about mach and thought it was for kernel/user-space communication only (both directions)

Post by sn41 » Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 1:27 AM UTC

jakeogh wrote: post #10

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #5

The preliminary rump kernel support that arrived just a bit more than a week ago is quite promising, if still quite rudimentary. That said, a patched MPlayer linking to rump libraries has been able to play OGG files on a Hurd system: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-hurd/2015-08/msg00027... Though obviously in the very initial stages, the implications of this development taken to its end could be enormous. Have…

Exciting! "processes running under multiple uids" Why?

Post by Qwertious » Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 1:56 AM UTC

steve-howard wrote: post #23

ai_ja_nai wrote: post #12

>Hardware support >● i686 >● start of 64bit support WTF? They started 30 years ago and still on an 32bit architecture nobody cares anymore? Beside that, I really don't get the point of all this, seriously. Not from a technological benefit, be warned, but from a user perspective the benefit is almost intangible. Why should the average sysadmin care? Linux is a rock solid kernel that does everything, what is the niche…

You realize i686 is a catch-all term for 32-bit x86 processors, right? It's arguably the only 32-bit architecture anyone cares about.

Post by Qwertious » Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 2:21 AM UTC

Post by boardwaalk » Wed, Aug 26, 2015, 3:00 AM UTC

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #36

boardwaalk wrote: post #34

Practical question: If I was to get some cheap hardware, like a Chromebook, could I get a Debian GNU/Hurd development environment dual booting on it? What would I have available? I'd at least want a decent shell, tmux and vim and support for the display's full resolution. I suppose the easier route would be a virtual machine, but I think being immersed in it would be good. I've wanted to get into kernel or other low-…

bash, tmux and vim are all supported. You can even have a full Xfce desktop. Hardware support is unfortunately flaky, in part because the GNU Mach code lacks some features like PCI MSIs and uses drivers from the Linux 2.6 era through DDE. Virtualization is definitely the route through which people run it. The rump integration will hopefully change this situation, assuming it advances forward.