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Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by overgryphon »

hfpn wrote: post #123
Someone1234 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My grandma also mostly plays games and checks her email/Facebook, but she also occasionally has to search the web and has used Siri on her iPad, I don't think Cortana would be that big of a stretch to get her into (e.g. I've seen her use Siri semi-regularly to check the local weather). To be frank, she would likely be better off with a Chromebook. But unfortunately she has a few games she plays which are Windows bina…

The problem with Cortona and Siri is that they process everything on remote servers while it could easily be done on a local machine. They do this to be able to save all that data (and take away your privacy). Apple saves Siri's audio for 2 years for example... not sure what Microsoft's policy is on this...

Are there any existing products comparable in quality and speed to Cortana/Siri that do all of the processing locally?

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by microtonal »

ksk wrote: post #61

I think Microsoft messed up the messaging and wording of their features, bigtime. Many products these days are integrating analytics to see how their users use their products. Personally, I prefer to disable such tracking, but I don't view it as malicious. MS should have realized by now that people don't quite trust them with this stuff, and they should have make it clear at the outset that they are never going to us…

The thing is that a lot of things here are genuinely useful for most users, e.g.:

- Blocking malicious sites.

- Page prediction.

- Improving typing prediction.

- Finding open hotspots and automatic sharing of network credentials with contacts.

- Cortana.

- Search suggestions.

Multiple of these are also already done by Google and Apple, but the riots are much smaller. So, it's probably a mixture of: bad wording, spreading privacy options across too many configuration screens, and all that fuelled by some good old Microsoft hatred (I can't remember people being quite as upset about Android or iOS).

I think everyone would be better off if one of the first configuration steps would give three choices:

1. Protect my privacy completely. No data is sent at all to Microsoft.

2. Only send anonymized data to Microsoft. Data is used in a non-identifiable manner, enables some features such as blocking malicious websites and search suggestions.

3. Send useful data about me to Microsoft. Sends non-anonymous data to Microsoft to tailor Cortana and Windows to your needs. Data is not used for advertising purposes or given to third parties.

Simple to understand and everyone can make pick their own trade-off.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by dang »

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #58
bmn_ wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without an explanation which part of the article sows FUD, it makes me think you just don't even know what that acronym means.

Having to explain simple concepts to you makes me think you're an idiot.

> Having to explain simple concepts to you makes me think you're an idiot.

You can't post like this here. Please (re-)read the guidelines and follow them. That means making comments that are civil and substantive, or making no comments.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Fix Windows 10

#144

Post by w0000t »

QuantumRoar wrote: post #70

From what I can see, this blog post has approximately the same length as the beginners' guide for installing Arch Linux [1]. What a user experience... [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_guide

Apples, oranges...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FAQ#Why_would_I_want_to...

Re: Fix Windows 10

#145

Post by aperrien »

ksk wrote: post #61

I think Microsoft messed up the messaging and wording of their features, bigtime. Many products these days are integrating analytics to see how their users use their products. Personally, I prefer to disable such tracking, but I don't view it as malicious. MS should have realized by now that people don't quite trust them with this stuff, and they should have make it clear at the outset that they are never going to us…

It might have helped to offer a "Plain English" version of their legalese, stating explicitly what their goals were for analytics and customer security privacy. People are very wary of things that are unclear, especially with something that they're practically forced to use.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by urda »

hfpn wrote: post #123
Someone1234 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My grandma also mostly plays games and checks her email/Facebook, but she also occasionally has to search the web and has used Siri on her iPad, I don't think Cortana would be that big of a stretch to get her into (e.g. I've seen her use Siri semi-regularly to check the local weather). To be frank, she would likely be better off with a Chromebook. But unfortunately she has a few games she plays which are Windows bina…

The problem with Cortona and Siri is that they process everything on remote servers while it could easily be done on a local machine. They do this to be able to save all that data (and take away your privacy). Apple saves Siri's audio for 2 years for example... not sure what Microsoft's policy is on this...

> The problem with Cortona and Siri is that they process everything on remote servers while it could easily be done on a local machine.

Please enlighten the HN crowd and provide a reference for this claim.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by gcb0 »

segf4ult wrote: post #67
gcb0 wrote: post #50

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and the alternatives are? osX invented all this. MS is just catching up. and apple don't even allow you to disable things. android? chrome alone sends more info than whole windows 10+edge. now, you could say Linux. but sadly your grand mother has no publicly available product she can buy with that OS.

You can now buy laptops preinstalled with Ubuntu directly from dell.

you can buy ONE laptop with Linux from dell. and even that one is advertised only to developers.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by gcb0 »

rufugee wrote: post #129
gcb0 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and the alternatives are? osX invented all this. MS is just catching up. and apple don't even allow you to disable things. android? chrome alone sends more info than whole windows 10+edge. now, you could say Linux. but sadly your grand mother has no publicly available product she can buy with that OS.

Can you expound upon your OS X comment?

can't you search "osx phone home" if you're really interested?

even wired, which usually drink the apple cool aid, reported on it during Yosemite. though the app store reporting is mostly ignored by non geeks, so search deeper for that

Re: Fix Windows 10

#149

Post by AnthonBerg »

There is something deeply aggravating about having human hands manually adjusting these settings, when we should have some mechanism to automate it. Compters - our tools for automation - are not automated! It's ridiculous, demeaning, disheartening, and sad.

Re: Fix Windows 10

#150

Post by rufugee »

gcb0 wrote: post #148
rufugee wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you expound upon your OS X comment?

can't you search "osx phone home" if you're really interested? even wired, which usually drink the apple cool aid, reported on it during Yosemite. though the app store reporting is mostly ignored by non geeks, so search deeper for that

Will do.
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