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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by ionised »

yellowapple wrote: post #252
merb wrote: post #105

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it's still slower mostly. Mostly since they don't have any specification at all.

It is? I've personally seen better performance with Wine + Linux than with Windows. Now, this isn't to say that Wine is totally up to par with Windows in terms of compatibility , but performance hasn't been a significant issue for quite some time.

I searched for a few games I'm playing now and have played recently and out of 10 there were 4 that had no entry on the WINE database.

This might be enough of a barrier to stop me using it right now.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by ionised »

dibujante wrote: post #60
ionised wrote: post #20

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If Steam OS becomes a viable desktop gaming OS that plays most, if not all games, I'll drop Windows in a heartbeat.

I updated to Windows 10 and found it to be so painfully slow that I switched to Ubuntu 14.04 for gaming. I've honestly had a pretty good experience playing everything from low-fi indie titles (like Terraria) to AAA releases (like Shadow of Mordor). Try it out!

I can't say I've had any issues with performance on Win10. Some games seem to actually run a bit better for me.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by ionised »

Xylemon wrote: post #83
ionised wrote: post #43

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Many of the games I have in my library do not run at all unfortunately. Sometimes I like to go back and play old stuff too.

Wine is always a viable option, especially for older games. With DirectX 11 support coming later this year, almost every Windoze only game should hopefully work.

What about the games that have no entry in the WINE database? Are they just untested or do they not work at all?

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by anonbanker »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #188
anonbanker wrote: post #156

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KDE is the closest to windows. Start with Chakra[1] or KaOS [2] if you want it to "just work" (both are Arch-based). If you want to tinker, go Manjaro KDE. If you want to have to earn back every single piece of hardware in your computer, and end up becoming a Linux superhero when you're done, install Gentoo. If you're concerned about privacy or rights, avoid Ubuntu and Redhat distros, as they have a history of exploi…

I ran Chakra for a while -- although it's been a few years -- and wouldn't recommend them to people looking to switch from Windows. Unfortunately they weren't careful enough with their rolling updates and they would intermittently break installed applications, including at one point smb. So one day I could connect to Windows shares, the next day I couldn't.

If it's been more than a year since you've used a distribution, your opinion, positive or negative, is likely innacurate. The Linux community iterates at an order of magnitude faster then the windows or Mac ecosystem. The Chakra of today is far smoother than the ones a few years back.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by anonbanker »

Zardoz84 wrote: post #233
anonbanker wrote: post #156

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KDE is the closest to windows. Start with Chakra[1] or KaOS [2] if you want it to "just work" (both are Arch-based). If you want to tinker, go Manjaro KDE. If you want to have to earn back every single piece of hardware in your computer, and end up becoming a Linux superhero when you're done, install Gentoo. If you're concerned about privacy or rights, avoid Ubuntu and Redhat distros, as they have a history of exploi…

Or Kubuntu if you like to get help from then now abundant Ubuntu/Debian "how to" stuff on internet. Also, avoid the problem of "privacity" with normal Ubuntu, as not use Canonical desktop stuff.

If you read up on Jonathan Riddell's (and the FSF and SFLC's) spat with the Ubuntu Community Council [1], you wouldn't touch Kubuntu with a 10-foot pole.

1. https://lwn.net/Articles/645973/

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by thaumaturgy »

anonbanker wrote: post #274
thaumaturgy wrote: post #188

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I ran Chakra for a while -- although it's been a few years -- and wouldn't recommend them to people looking to switch from Windows. Unfortunately they weren't careful enough with their rolling updates and they would intermittently break installed applications, including at one point smb. So one day I could connect to Windows shares, the next day I couldn't.

If it's been more than a year since you've used a distribution, your opinion, positive or negative, is likely innacurate. The Linux community iterates at an order of magnitude faster then the windows or Mac ecosystem. The Chakra of today is far smoother than the ones a few years back.

True. I wasn't clear, but it was more a criticism of the project's management, which iterates far more slowly. But still, that's why I mentioned it had been a few years -- so anybody could dismiss my experience as they wished.

fwiw though I took a quick look at their -stable forums (http://chakraos.org/forum/viewforum.php?id=32) and there are several recent threads related to updates breaking things. I realize that will to some extent be a problem on any platform, but it seems disproportional on Chakra.

And in any case, that probably makes it a poor recommendation for Linux novices switching from Windows.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by anonbanker »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #276
anonbanker wrote: post #274

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If it's been more than a year since you've used a distribution, your opinion, positive or negative, is likely innacurate. The Linux community iterates at an order of magnitude faster then the windows or Mac ecosystem. The Chakra of today is far smoother than the ones a few years back.

True. I wasn't clear, but it was more a criticism of the project's management, which iterates far more slowly. But still, that's why I mentioned it had been a few years -- so anybody could dismiss my experience as they wished. fwiw though I took a quick look at their -stable forums ( http://chakraos.org/forum/viewforum.php?id=32 ) and there are several recent threads related to updates breaking things. I realize that…

fair enough. then switch to KaOS. :)

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by yellowapple »

ionised wrote: post #271
yellowapple wrote: post #252

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It is? I've personally seen better performance with Wine + Linux than with Windows. Now, this isn't to say that Wine is totally up to par with Windows in terms of compatibility , but performance hasn't been a significant issue for quite some time.

I searched for a few games I'm playing now and have played recently and out of 10 there were 4 that had no entry on the WINE database. This might be enough of a barrier to stop me using it right now.

That happens, particularly on really new (or really obscure) software. Really, though, that ought to be an encouragement; sure, you're left in the dark, but it means that those games could use some test coverage. Your contributions to the AppDB could help quite a few others.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by yellowapple »

kstrauser wrote: post #266
yellowapple wrote: post #245

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Only played New Vegas for 8 minutes? Please. This is obviously a fake. :)

Well, that one night. He's logged another 19 hours so far today.

Ah. Well that's more like it, then :)

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by yellowapple »

mdekkers wrote: post #265
yellowapple wrote: post #244

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In reality, if you're using a machine that's owned by your employer, you should always assume that everything you do is being monitored at all times, regardless of what operating system said machine is running, because chances are in favor of that being the case. Expect at the absolute least some sort of web traffic monitoring (probably via a corporate proxy); in some cases, I've seen companies install keyloggers (an…

> In reality, if you're using a machine that's owned by your employer, you should always assume that everything you do is being monitored at all times, regardless of what operating system said machine is running, because chances are in favor of that being the case. Expect at the absolute least some sort of web traffic monitoring (probably via a corporate proxy); in some cases, I've seen companies install keyloggers (…

Right. But from the context of the employee, it's a distinction without a difference. By using a company computer, the chances of your activities being keylogged and tracked with absurd amounts of granularity go up significantly. If you're not the owner of the hardware (and, hell, sometimes even when you are), all bets are off.

Of course from a company's perspective will the distinction actually be meaningful, but that didn't seem to be what the parent comment was going for.

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