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Following WWII, a plan to use a Nazi rocket to put a Briton in space

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Re: Following WWII, a plan to use a Nazi rocket to put a Briton in space

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Post by williamhpark »

NLips wrote: post #6
jand wrote: post #3

Could you please change the title to be less clickbaity? A Nazi rocket... as opposed to communism rockets and god-fearing, democracy rockets? Please.

'Nazi rocket' is from the original title (although for some reason the title here has been subtly changed - from "How a Nazi rocket could have put a Briton in space"). It's also a specific and potentially interesting piece of information, as opposed to 'communism rockets'. It refers to a specific regime, like someone referring to a 'Roman sword'.

Thanks for pointing this out. I left 'Nazi rocket' in as I felt it was essential to the point of the article: A story about clamour to obtain wartime tech to repurpose for space exploration.

The reason for the change is simple. The one misleading term in the title is the word 'Briton'. A Briton is not a British person, but rather an archaic term for a Celtic person who inhabited ancient Britain.

I thought it would be FAR more click-baity to suggest an ancient Celt tried to reach space in a rocket.

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Post by kryptiskt »

jand wrote: post #3

Could you please change the title to be less clickbaity? A Nazi rocket... as opposed to communism rockets and god-fearing, democracy rockets? Please.

It was a Nazi rocket through and through, built by slave labor at the Mittelwerk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelwerk) and serving as one of Hitler's vengeance weapons. No need to whitewash it.

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Post by nbevans »

jand wrote: post #15
nbevans wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well personally I believe "Nazi " is an incredibly common phrasing structure and it seems odd to call out this HN topic or the BBC article for using it. Just search Google for "nazi rocket" for example. Or try "nazi weapons".

Try searching google for "awesome facts about". It is very common. But the quality of the content behind the links is less then optimal.

But the quality of the content is completely optimal. You are clutching at straws. Just admit it; you didn't realise the phrase was incredibly common. Just like "Soviet rocket" or "Soviet " is. There is nothing wrong with using the words Nazi or Soviet, they are not in any way offensive to anyone. Politics doesn't come into it, it is just about being precise when referring to things.

Re: Following WWII, a plan to use a Nazi rocket to put a Briton in space

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Post by SFjulie1 »

When you see how much USA and commonwealth have Me 163 komet, Me262, volksjager there is no wonder how USA got its spatial program. It must have been true that for some years there should have been NYIFO being tested in the skys near USAF bases: Not Yet Identified Flying Objects.

Look where the remaining planes are located: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_163_Komet

You can add, it was nice of them exfiltrating the poor scientists that could have been unfairly implicated in war crimes.

It is obvious all industrial powers that could try to get the nazi's technology did: Russia, UK included...

Whatever the way you call it: a nazi rocket indeed helped made a man/dog/monkey the first man/dog/monkey in space.

Re: Following WWII, a plan to use a Nazi rocket to put a Briton in space

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Post by notahacker »

williamhpark wrote: post #21
NLips wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Nazi rocket' is from the original title (although for some reason the title here has been subtly changed - from "How a Nazi rocket could have put a Briton in space"). It's also a specific and potentially interesting piece of information, as opposed to 'communism rockets'. It refers to a specific regime, like someone referring to a 'Roman sword'.

Thanks for pointing this out. I left 'Nazi rocket' in as I felt it was essential to the point of the article: A story about clamour to obtain wartime tech to repurpose for space exploration. The reason for the change is simple. The one misleading term in the title is the word 'Briton'. A Briton is not a British person, but rather an archaic term for a Celtic person who inhabited ancient Britain. I thought it would be…

The OED and common usage both agree that Briton is a standard term for a British person, and incidentally also an archaic term for Celtic people who inhabited ancient Britain...

Re: Following WWII, a plan to use a Nazi rocket to put a Briton in space

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Post by spacecowboy_lon »

garagemc2 wrote: post #5

Totally predictable ending. The potential for this country to get advanced technology well ahead of it's time getting rejected by bureaucrats because of other priorities (or really it serves none of their short term goals). The same thing happened with our fibre network in the early 90's.

That was down to thatcher BT had the plans for a nationwide fiber roil out but Government did not want an ex public body to succeed.

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Post by quarterto »

williamhpark wrote: post #21
NLips wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'Nazi rocket' is from the original title (although for some reason the title here has been subtly changed - from "How a Nazi rocket could have put a Briton in space"). It's also a specific and potentially interesting piece of information, as opposed to 'communism rockets'. It refers to a specific regime, like someone referring to a 'Roman sword'.

Thanks for pointing this out. I left 'Nazi rocket' in as I felt it was essential to the point of the article: A story about clamour to obtain wartime tech to repurpose for space exploration. The reason for the change is simple. The one misleading term in the title is the word 'Briton'. A Briton is not a British person, but rather an archaic term for a Celtic person who inhabited ancient Britain. I thought it would be…

I'm pretty sure the BBC know what "briton" means.

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Post by Gravityloss »

garagemc2 wrote: post #5

Totally predictable ending. The potential for this country to get advanced technology well ahead of it's time getting rejected by bureaucrats because of other priorities (or really it serves none of their short term goals). The same thing happened with our fibre network in the early 90's.

There was a UK rocket that launched a few satellites to orbit. UK is the only country in the world to have have given up space access that it had.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Arrow

Re: Following WWII, a plan to use a Nazi rocket to put a Briton in space

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Post by JackFr »

garagemc2 wrote: post #5

Totally predictable ending. The potential for this country to get advanced technology well ahead of it's time getting rejected by bureaucrats because of other priorities (or really it serves none of their short term goals). The same thing happened with our fibre network in the early 90's.

Well in fairness, Britain did OK with that whole steam engine thing.
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