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Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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The list of files modified (to add telemetry hooks?) in kb 3080149 is crazy. NTOSKrnl, NtDll, Lsass, winload.exe etc... Are they really adding spyware/telemetry hooks all the way down to the kernel? What happens next time there's a security patch for the kernel, do we get an ntoskrnl with all these "optional updates" included as well?

I remember some months ago where they only claimed fixing something minor (like, something that's not even an executable but some text-based or at least data file) in the patch and the list included also a huge amount of files including cryptwhatever.dll (not the actual name). "Backdoor time" thought I. As little as I checked however, it didn't look like a real smoking gun then. It seems a common practice somehow tha…

It would be interesting to see what someone knowledgable would report back on by taking something like zynamics bindiff onto pre- and post this KB.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Chrome -- as far as we know -- doesn't transmit all of your keystrokes to Google, nor does it transmit the contents or indexes of your local filesystem(s) back to Google.

You're posting FUD. Those permissions are required in the context of Cortana, so Cortana can work. Keep Cortana off and turn off the services, and nothing gets transmitted. It's literally no worse than the conditions you agree to when using Siri or Ok Google / Google Now.

> literally no worse than Siri

Now who is posting FUD? Apple would never do something so egregious as to upload a copy of all the filenames on my computer.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Here is a more in-depth analysis of windows 10 and what is sent to MS http://aeronet.cz/news/analyza-windows-10-ve-svem-principu-j... For those who don't speak Czech: -It sends all text you type anywhere (not just into search) every 30 minutes to MS. If you type about a holiday to your blog, next day you'll see holiday ads. -Every 30 minutes it sends your geo-location and network information. -If you type a telephone…

Sounds too crazy to believe. If true, I think I would be forced to stop using windows all together.

are you using google or facebook? might want to consider dropping those, too.

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Ask and ye shall receive: http://imgur.com/eeBtcIw Bear in mind that it's nearly empty because we'd only just recently upgraded to Windows 10, but note that it has an entry for "Latest searches". Wouldn't that be one hell of a way for a kid to come out of the closet to his parents, or for someone to find out their daughter's pregnant? Consider that this data is linked to each kid's email address. When this database i…

No. The schools provide laptops to the kids. And then make them "kid accounts". Then the school process all of those reports and punishes based on them... or sells them to advertising firms.

You know, a couple of years ago I would have written that off as paranoid ranting.

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But does that really work in this case? It seems as if these new privacy things go pretty deep.

I'm not sure. I have seen spam that has unsubscribe buttons that actually work, as well as adware that uninstalls properly from the control panel. I hope Windows doesn't do worse than spammers and malware programmers.

Lol, thanks.

I will at least give it a try ;). But before that I am moving all my personal files to my NAS and I will only be using windows for playing a game or 2.

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It's since 2006 that every year is gonna be the year of linux on the desktop. Except it never happens.

I guess you haven't witnessed Corel Linux, Wordperfect for Linux or Loki Entertainment. It's been predicted way longer than 2006. Ps. Sorry for the accidental downvote :(.

Can attest. Used Linux as primary OS for last 2-3 years in college, then got a job doing development on Linux, then worked for a Linux startup in early 2000's (we hired a couple ex Loki employees). Linux on the desktop has been a roller-coaster movement since not long after it's inception, likely around the time KDE and Gnome were released with some level of maturity. There was always the ported desktop managers but I don't think it's had much viability for dominance until OpenOffice came along.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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I submitted a story to Boing Boing (at http://boingboing.net/2015/08/10/windows-10.html ) about the weird experience I had after upgrading my son's laptop from Windows 8.1 to 10. We did this on a Saturday, and Monday morning I had a "family safety report" email from Microsoft detailing which websites he'd visited, which apps he'd used (and for how long), etc. since the upgrade . According to Microsoft's Family Safety…

Abusive parents are going to love this. (And that's terrifying.)

Also parents who's kids accidentally stumble upon a site for predators. It's a tool that can be used for good or bad, but will depend on the parents.
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