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Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by Achshar »

coldpie wrote: post #122
Achshar wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I am not a linux newbi. I know my way around a unix box I just haven't used it as my primary work station ever. So things like compatibility with all the popular stuff comes into play.

If you're familiar with the command line, then the only OS I like personally is Arch Linux. You start with nothing more than a Bash shell (seriously, it doesn't even have an installer), install your OS onto a disk with a couple commands, and then install whatever software you want. I install the XFCE desktop environment and Firefox, and go from there. Arch doesn't try to babysit you or do things for you; you will be…

That sounds exactly like what I was looking for. Thanks! I'll have a look.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by McGlockenshire »

kardos wrote: post #79
mizzao wrote: post #68

People who use their google accounts and Chrome ubiquitously already get spied on by GA at a much bigger scale through all the sites they visit in their browser. Why is it a big uproar when it happens at the OS level? Seems like it's pretty much the same thing. We always have the option of using Linux if we don't like it.

Chrome -- as far as we know -- doesn't transmit all of your keystrokes to Google, nor does it transmit the contents or indexes of your local filesystem(s) back to Google.

You're posting FUD.

Those permissions are required in the context of Cortana, so Cortana can work. Keep Cortana off and turn off the services, and nothing gets transmitted.

It's literally no worse than the conditions you agree to when using Siri or Ok Google / Google Now.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by minthd »

anonbanker wrote: post #126
minthd wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

:) .Is that even legal ?

Consent is cemented 72 hours after a contract has been agreed-upon, unless fraud is involved. In this case, agreement to future contract amendments/changes is consent. Your fault for clicking "Agree". Didn't anyone watch the Human Cent-iPad episode of South Park?

IANAL , but:

" Unilateral modifications are not supposed to alter the material or important terms of the original contract. "

http://www.faircontracts.org/contract-provisions/unilateral-...

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

#134

Post by SpikedCola »

Found a useful script on SuperUser that removes KBs as well as hides them in the future. Just need to change the list slightly

    FOR %%X IN (3075249 3080149 3068708 2976978 3021917 3035583 2952664) DO ...
http://superuser.com/questions/922068/how-to-disable-the-get...

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by aikah »

That's what happens when a single vendor has more than 95% shares of a market. There is no competition , where the hell people using Windows software are going to run ? I'm really angry at this. What's the difference between this and a spyware / key logger / trojan ? there is none conceptually.

I sincerely hope it backfires because it's just insane. If MS wants to collect on my hard drive or log my key strokes , it should ask for my approval first and not hide it behind a license.

People are outraged with the AM hack scandal, well nothing guarantees that MS will never be hacked. And when a database like this get hacked , every windows user data will be in the wild. That's just crazy. Is the the "new microsoft" , a lot of HNers like to boast about ? Same as the old one.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by coldpie »

Achshar wrote: post #131
coldpie wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're familiar with the command line, then the only OS I like personally is Arch Linux. You start with nothing more than a Bash shell (seriously, it doesn't even have an installer), install your OS onto a disk with a couple commands, and then install whatever software you want. I install the XFCE desktop environment and Firefox, and go from there. Arch doesn't try to babysit you or do things for you; you will be…

That sounds exactly like what I was looking for. Thanks! I'll have a look.

It was my first Linux distro 8 years ago, and it's still the only operating system I can stand today. Again, it has a big learning curve, but I love it :) Hope it goes well for you.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by [deleted] »

kardos wrote: post #96
inevitable2 wrote: post #90

Here is a more in-depth analysis of windows 10 and what is sent to MS http://aeronet.cz/news/analyza-windows-10-ve-svem-principu-j... For those who don't speak Czech: -It sends all text you type anywhere (not just into search) every 30 minutes to MS. If you type about a holiday to your blog, next day you'll see holiday ads. -Every 30 minutes it sends your geo-location and network information. -If you type a telephone…

Is any of this verified? During a previous posting of this it was largely dismissed as propaganda [1]. If someone has reproduced these findings that would be very interesting. What would be even more interesting would be for someone to intercept the spying data that is being sent back so we know for sure what's being sent. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10053420

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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by anonbanker »

tinfoilman wrote: post #18

Brilliant, 2 options I see Never do updates again (which is what I will be doing this evening) and make system perm insecure Or let MS and the NSA rape me for even more data than they already have Go [insert abusive word] yourself Microsoft and to think just last week I got a 3rd windows 7 license because I was planning to stay on 7 long term and not upgrade to 10. Steam hopefully will push linux gaming that i can fi…

Parent post is willing to sacrifice his liberty and privacy because not doing so will cut him off from games.

Can we all just be honest with each other and call this behavior an addiction already?

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by dang »

jsingleton wrote: post #5

Not sure why this is being down-voted. Just trying to be helpful in case people want to avoid these optional updates or uninstall them. Maybe I should just delete the comment?

That helpful comment got two downvotes and well over a hundred upvotes. This is an extreme example of why HN has a guideline asking people not to comment about being downvoted. Most of the fluctuation is ephemeral, and most comments about it soon become inaccurate.

We've detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10110543 and marked it off topic.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by anonbanker »

minthd wrote: post #133
anonbanker wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consent is cemented 72 hours after a contract has been agreed-upon, unless fraud is involved. In this case, agreement to future contract amendments/changes is consent. Your fault for clicking "Agree". Didn't anyone watch the Human Cent-iPad episode of South Park?

IANAL , but: " Unilateral modifications are not supposed to alter the material or important terms of the original contract. " http://www.faircontracts.org/contract-provisions/unilateral-...

Unless you've bilaterally agreed or acquiesced to it, of course. Consent(.exe) is everything.

You have 72 hours (10 business days by mail) to undo your consent to the Windows license changes after clicking "Agree". Did you submit your notice in a timely fashion, or did you let the clock run out?

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