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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by yuhong »

thescrewdriver wrote: post #58
yuhong wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Win10 enterprise has the no telemetry option for a reason.

Because every small business uses Win10 enterprise?

Most enterprises that care probably is. And it is possible for small businesses to get, just costs a bit more (including Software Assurance renewal) and it also gets you access to things like LTSB.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by Navarr »

habitue wrote: post #44
Lendal wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) Internet web sites have always been "lit up with speculation". 2) Microsoft's "spying" has been going on since Windows Vista was released, and speculation has gone along with it. 3) Since the 1990's, next year has always been "the year of desktop Linux."

I think Navarr is fully aware of the Linux desktop meme. It's clearly tongue-in-cheek

Yes, thank you. Though honestly the people who really do care about this will see the coming year as year of the Linux desktop.

And to me it seems like a lot of HNers care that Windows is sending all this telemetry. (Aren't we the same group that is obsessed with A/B tests and recording analytics on everything a user does on our website?)

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by dragonwriter »

dibujante wrote: post #60
ionised wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Steam OS becomes a viable desktop gaming OS that plays most, if not all games, I'll drop Windows in a heartbeat.

I updated to Windows 10 and found it to be so painfully slow that I switched to Ubuntu 14.04 for gaming. I've honestly had a pretty good experience playing everything from low-fi indie titles (like Terraria) to AAA releases (like Shadow of Mordor). Try it out!

> I updated to Windows 10 and found it to be so painfully slow

I initially had that problem, but it seemed to be the fact that (on top of some phoning-home options that I missed disabling originally, which seemed to play some role in the slowness -- disabling them helped) the Windows 10 update from Windows 8.1 also, for some unknown reason, rolled WLAN drivers back to the versions that were several years old (pre-Win8.1 at least) and fairly broken and couldn't automatically locate new ones; redownloading the latest (for Win8.1 -- no Win 10 specific drivers were available for the hardware in question) drivers (which is what had been installed prior to the update) resolved the slowness problems.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by rdudek »

I have a question that I can't seem to get a straight answer anywhere. If I were to use Win 10 Enterprise edition, could I theoretically disable all the spying and telemetry?

It also now seems like we need two computers. One that is open for "spying" so the government looks at my usage and white-lists me as a "good citizen" and another computer that basically is encrypted and hides anything I don't want anyone to know about.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by mizzao »

People who use their google accounts and Chrome ubiquitously already get spied on by GA at a much bigger scale through all the sites they visit in their browser.

Why is it a big uproar when it happens at the OS level? Seems like it's pretty much the same thing. We always have the option of using Linux if we don't like it.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by thescrewdriver »

yuhong wrote: post #63
thescrewdriver wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because every small business uses Win10 enterprise?

Most enterprises that care probably is. And it is possible for small businesses to get, just costs a bit more (including Software Assurance renewal) and it also gets you access to things like LTSB.

Maybe some small businesses don't care, but the people whose data they are handling might not agree with that stance.
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