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Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by ionised »

zkhalique wrote: post #145
userbinator wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, I can see this turning into a "if you don't use Windows 10 you must be a pirate/have something to hide" sort of argument. Ten years ago, when filesharing was the awesome new thing, that would've been almost a compliment; but given how the population's view of piracy seems to have changed now, I don't think that will be the case anymore.

What is the population's view of piracy now?

Misinformed due to the large scale FUD campaigns of copyright holders and lobbyists.

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by ionised »

jqm wrote: post #188
ionised wrote: post #172

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Same. Disabled every form of data collection possible from the Settings and also edited Group Policy and the registry to disable further collection. I've also edited the hosts file and added entries for dozens of domains associated with MS telemtry and reporting. At this point Comodo Firewall was still reporting some suspicious outbound connection requests which I've analysed and blocked most of. System still works f…

Interesting. I read sometime back that MS was going to disable changing the hosts file. I guess that was just rumor?

I'm not sure how they could. It's just a text file.

There is however the issue that adding entries to the hosts file may not change anything, as the domains for this telemetry collection might be hardcoded elsewhere and would likely override/ignore the hosts file.

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by user_0001 »

adestefan wrote: post #133
x5n1 wrote: post #67

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Hatred for Microsoft? I have none. I do hate the fact that we have an absolutely free operating system that works just fine but thanks to Bill Gates 90s shenanigans and aggressive and illegal market and business tactics we're stuck with a proprietary system that is totally unnecessary and as it continues that system becomes more and more invasive. And that system is a black box that you can't trust. Google started en…

> Hatred for Microsoft? I have none. When you post "M$" in a reply I automatically mark you as rabidly anti-Microsoft and usually stop reading. I'm not a fan of Microsoft, but childish acts such as those have no place in a rational discussion.

Perhaps not "rabidly anti-microsoft", but it does come across as childish and reduce the effectiveness of the point you are trying to make.

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by knodi123 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #167
pdkl95 wrote: post #101

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Microsoft was an early adopter of PRISM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg > same thing to Google So what? The claim was about not using Microsoft's products.

Microsoft weren't an adopter at all, that isn't what PRISM is. PRISM is the theft of unencrypted data on dedicated lines between data centers. > So what? The claim was about not using Microsoft's products. No, the claim was that Snowden revealed some Windows issue. That hasn't been shown. PRISM has absolutely nothing to do with Windows at all. Where is this Snowden-Windows smoking gun? I haven't seen it. PS - I find…

from user "ionised" above,

July 31, 2012

Microsoft (MS) began encrypting web-based chat with the introduction of the new outlook.com service. This new Secure Socket Layer (SSL) encryption effectively cut off collection of the new service for FAA 702 and likely 12333 (to some degree) for the Intelligence Community (IC). MS, working with the FBI, developed a surveillance capability to deal with the new SSL. These solutions were successfully tested and went live 12 Dec 2012.

From; https://search.edwardsnowden.com/

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by ionised »

sillygeese wrote: post #60
mtgx wrote: post #36

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Here's what I did: 1) turned off everything in the Customization section at install 2) Used http://pxc-coding.com/portfolio/donotspy10/ 3) Used https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking Then, I installed a traffic monitoring tool - and surprise surprise - I still found some stuff trying to randomly connect to Microsoft's servers, similarly to what Peter Bright from Ars discovered (btw, "telemetry" can only be f…

I wonder why you're getting downvoted.

Microsoft employees maybe?

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by pdkl95 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #167
pdkl95 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft was an early adopter of PRISM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg > same thing to Google So what? The claim was about not using Microsoft's products.

Microsoft weren't an adopter at all, that isn't what PRISM is. PRISM is the theft of unencrypted data on dedicated lines between data centers. > So what? The claim was about not using Microsoft's products. No, the claim was that Snowden revealed some Windows issue. That hasn't been shown. PRISM has absolutely nothing to do with Windows at all. Where is this Snowden-Windows smoking gun? I haven't seen it. PS - I find…

> I find it odd that you'd link to that image

Did you not see the evidence in the bottom left corner?

    (  Microsoft 9/11/07 )
> Microsoft weren't an adopter at all

They were compared to the other businesses listed on that lide.

> PRISM is the theft of unencrypted data on dedicated lines between data centers.

This is as common misunderstanding. There are quite a few NSA programs that tap lines, which serve as inputs to XKEYSCORE. Some of these taps are line taps or Tailored Access based attacks, but those are not PRISM.

PRISM is the "polite" way the NSA gets their data, using FISA warrants and the cooperation of the business. They ask for a tap, and the business accommodates them. IF a business decides to not be part of prism, that's when the NSA simply takes the data via other means. The entire point of PRISM as a program is that it involves asking private business to participate.

> PRISM has absolutely nothing to do with Windows at all.

When windows 10 decides to make all those network connections, where are they going? They're writing to some sort of database at Microsoft. Now that windows has made the network part of the OS, the situation at the remote data center becomes relevant.

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by forgotmypassw »

Amezarak wrote: post #96
forgotmypassw wrote: post #83

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The questionable part is that they're there in the first place and enabled by default. I'd be fine with that if the telemetry and what not was opt-in as opposed to a lot of toggle switches spread across multiple settings.

All the toggle switches are under the Privacy screen in the Settings window.

Not really, there's a bunch of other options that are not in the privacy section and need to be explicitly toggled off in the scheduled tasks manager (I forgot what was the name of it).

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by joesmo »

ionised wrote: post #177
soccerdave wrote: post #93

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This is a main reason that I have avoided Android so far. The iOS permissions model is a far better model. At least with the next release of Android (Marshmallow) they are fixing some of this and hopefully you will be able to use apps without giving them access to so much info.

CyanogenMod is a barebones Android ROM that comes with permissions management.

As far as I can tell, I still only have the option of accepting or denying apps' permission on CyanogenMod. Also, I can hide my contacts and location from apps, if I'm really persistent about clicking the deny box a million times. But I still can't approve only the app permissions I want and not approve the ones I don't (which coincidentally are not essential to app functioning).

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by _lce0 »

pmelendez wrote: post #173
x5n1 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hatred for Microsoft? I have none. I do hate the fact that we have an absolutely free operating system that works just fine but thanks to Bill Gates 90s shenanigans and aggressive and illegal market and business tactics we're stuck with a proprietary system that is totally unnecessary and as it continues that system becomes more and more invasive. And that system is a black box that you can't trust. Google started en…

> we're stuck with a proprietary system that is totally unnecessary I think you are being a bit biased on this one. There are a lot of applications that the "free" alternative is just not good enough in comparison with the propetary one. Just to name a few: Gimp and Photoshop Inkscape and Illustrator Maya/3DStudio and Blender I would even add Office and LibreOffice but the later is actually good enough for a good chu…

Hey on the bright side, just look how far we have already got without too much financial incentives!!

My motivation for using libre software is:

- When you use a proprietary software, you are using "somebody else's software, licensed for your usage".

- When you are using libre software, you are using YOUR software.

Software built for profit have better incentives for financial development support, and that's why it's hard for libre software to catch up on features.

We can support libre software with donations (or better not giving money to the locked competence), and more importantly using the libre software that lacks of the non-vital features, at least at personal level.

In the long run, libre will outlast the locked, it's a matter of financial incentives.

Re: Windows 10 users are being banned from torrent sites

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Post by ionised »

joesmo wrote: post #208
ionised wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CyanogenMod is a barebones Android ROM that comes with permissions management.

As far as I can tell, I still only have the option of accepting or denying apps' permission on CyanogenMod. Also, I can hide my contacts and location from apps, if I'm really persistent about clicking the deny box a million times. But I still can't approve only the app permissions I want and not approve the ones I don't (which coincidentally are not essential to app functioning).

> But I still can't approve only the app permissions I want and not approve the ones I don't (which coincidentally are not essential to app functioning).

Hmm? I can do exactly this in the Privacy Guard settings.

You can choose which permissions you want an app to have and which you don't. You can also set to Ask every time as well as just blanket blocking/.allowing permanently.

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