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Here’s what Ashley Madison members have told me

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Re: Here’s what Ashley Madison members have told me

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Post by JupiterMoon »

DaFranker wrote: post #12
amelius wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been thinking about this a lot. But the problem is that such a service would have to violate EULAs of many popular services like facebook and twitter.

EULAs are never legally binding, and especially not for someone who is 1) not currently a consenting user, and 2) invoking a right. So in the EU, if current legislation projects bear fruit, a case could probably be made for implementing this under the protection of the right to be forgotten, and there would be very little those services could do to prevent it.

> EULAs are never legally binding

Violation will certainly give the social media cite grounds and desire to delete the false profiles though.

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Post by icebraining »

DaFranker wrote: post #12
amelius wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been thinking about this a lot. But the problem is that such a service would have to violate EULAs of many popular services like facebook and twitter.

EULAs are never legally binding, and especially not for someone who is 1) not currently a consenting user, and 2) invoking a right. So in the EU, if current legislation projects bear fruit, a case could probably be made for implementing this under the protection of the right to be forgotten, and there would be very little those services could do to prevent it.

I very much doubt any directive regarding the right to be forgotten will give you the right to use fake information. It's essentially inviting fraud.

Re: Here’s what Ashley Madison members have told me

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Post by icebraining »

JupiterMoon wrote: post #21
DaFranker wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EULAs are never legally binding, and especially not for someone who is 1) not currently a consenting user, and 2) invoking a right. So in the EU, if current legislation projects bear fruit, a case could probably be made for implementing this under the protection of the right to be forgotten, and there would be very little those services could do to prevent it.

> EULAs are never legally binding Violation will certainly give the social media cite grounds and desire to delete the false profiles though.

Not to mention blocking such fake-profile creation services.

Re: Here’s what Ashley Madison members have told me

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Post by lolo_ »

formichunter wrote: post #2

In northern virginia, fairfaxunderground website, was nice enough to parse only information pertinent to this area. Now, everybody and their friends have searched through it looking for people they know. My wife actually found a good friend's dad listed twice...and he's still married. So, now all those facebook connection have this awkward knowledge and no one will tell the friend.

I really think you (or a mod) should edit this to not mention the site name. Regardless of what these people have done (or tried to do) let's not spread the misery further by making it easier for people to find this information.

Re: Here’s what Ashley Madison members have told me

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

netcan wrote: post #11

What I'm curious about is future changes in user behavior in response to this kind of stuff. Private data, public data and the public-private grey areas like pseudonymous posts, access restricted (FB-like) profiles and such are getting leaked all the time. Paranoia is definitely building. Awareness of how exposed people are is building. Yet, exposure is going up not down. People are posting more stuff online. I wonde…

Of course your prediction will come true, there's already a lot of evidence for it in the comments of most articles on the leak. Cheaters will be the victims and anyone who thinks cheating on one's spouse is bad will be considered insensitive.

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Post by nyandaber »

netcan wrote: post #11

What I'm curious about is future changes in user behavior in response to this kind of stuff. Private data, public data and the public-private grey areas like pseudonymous posts, access restricted (FB-like) profiles and such are getting leaked all the time. Paranoia is definitely building. Awareness of how exposed people are is building. Yet, exposure is going up not down. People are posting more stuff online. I wonde…

There's also the fact that for all those hacks, a non-negligeable portion of the people think the victims "had it coming". They feel it's wrong to take lewd pictures of yourself or join a site like Ashley Madison, so those hacks are justice being served.

They don't see the real underlying issue about privacy and informatic data. The day it's something more sensible like medical or financial records being leaked, I hope they'll change their outlook at it.

Re: Here’s what Ashley Madison members have told me

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Post by petercooper »

netcan wrote: post #11

What I'm curious about is future changes in user behavior in response to this kind of stuff. Private data, public data and the public-private grey areas like pseudonymous posts, access restricted (FB-like) profiles and such are getting leaked all the time. Paranoia is definitely building. Awareness of how exposed people are is building. Yet, exposure is going up not down. People are posting more stuff online. I wonde…

I hope so. Humans have shown for millenia that they are unable to give in to certain urges. Some things are well worth fighting against, but in today's society strict monogamy doesn't seem to pose a major evolutionary advantage (though I could be wrong).

When Secret came out, I always assumed such a leak would occur, especially since it was linked to Facebook. So I only mostly posted fake secrets to troll people :-D I wonder if a certain level of mixing lies with reality will become the norm online to increase the doubt over information that leaks.

Re: Here’s what Ashley Madison members have told me

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Post by prawn »

JupiterMoon wrote: post #19
netcan wrote: post #11

What I'm curious about is future changes in user behavior in response to this kind of stuff. Private data, public data and the public-private grey areas like pseudonymous posts, access restricted (FB-like) profiles and such are getting leaked all the time. Paranoia is definitely building. Awareness of how exposed people are is building. Yet, exposure is going up not down. People are posting more stuff online. I wonde…

> I wonder if, for example, the cloud hack has impacted the trend of people taking nude picture at all? I suspect it hasn't. I've noticed recently that polaroid cameras are making a bit of a comeback. I wonder if this has any connection? (Not sure myself.)

No, it's purely a fashion/trend thing. Only ever seen them at parties and used as a gimmick to create a certain style of photo. Similar happens with vintage or modern photo booths hired for weddings.
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