I still love Microsoft Money for personal finances. A large DB can get slow, but an SSD fixes that. Plus, it's free: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/Results.aspx?q=microso...
I could not get money to install on windows 10
Intuit Will Sell Off Quicken
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#22I still love Microsoft Money for personal finances. A large DB can get slow, but an SSD fixes that. Plus, it's free: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/Results.aspx?q=microso...
Money doesn't work on Windows 10. Or at least, I couldn't get it to work for me.
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#23What is a good, active cloud based personal finance software service? The ones I have come across look ok, but aren't actively developed.
Most of the suggestions I've seen are either Mint (another Intuit product), Personal Capital (more investing focused), Hello Wallet (a bit lacking on features, but it connects to bank accounts), and PocketSmith (a really expensive Mint on steroids).
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is wanting taxes, and then there is wanting taxes. One is the tax rate, and other is how much business is done. The logic goes that if the government generates more jobs through lower business tax then they can get more revenue from the income tax. I guess I should restate and say that the government wants more revenue, whichever way it comes in and is more amenable to policies that produces more revenue for it…
Ok, I'm being repetitive but also trying to simplify: Conservatives make up the core opposition to return-free filing. Conservatives definitionally do not want more taxation, or complicated taxation. So I'm not sure the notion that Intuit's lobbying has killed return-free filing holds up.
> complicated taxation
Of course they do. Making something more burdensome makes it easier to attack politically. The Republican ideal tax return would be 796 pages long.
"Tax returns too long? Vote Republican! We'll cut taxes on the rich!"
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#25I still love Microsoft Money for personal finances. A large DB can get slow, but an SSD fixes that. Plus, it's free: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/Results.aspx?q=microso...
Money doesn't work on Windows 10. Or at least, I couldn't get it to work for me.
FWIW, I was able to install on Windows 10 and create a new Money database. I didn't try any operations beyond that, but it seemed to install and work ok for me.
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#26It would be awesome if financial companies were required to provide free api's along with the full financial history. Currently companies like BOA charge you for automated access to your account and others actively limit Mint, for instance, from retrieving information on behalf of customers.
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#27Looks like they are not worried about taxes ever becoming simpler. Intuit has spent about $11.5 million on federal lobbying in the past few years to kill bills that would have simplified taxes. [1] [1] http://www.propublica.org/article/how-the-maker-of-turbotax-...
If $2.3MM/yr over 5 years is enough to reshape the trajectory of fundamental laws in this country, why aren't people just Kickstarter-ing cannabis decriminalization, marriage equality, and copyright law changes? My point is: that's not a lot of money. Not that I think you can get important changes done for $2.3MM. There is real conservative opposition to return-free filing. For instance, conservatives in general thin…
> There is real conservative opposition to return-free filing. For instance, conservatives in general think the tax code is both too complex and too onerous. In a return-free system, citizens are given a summarized bill and encouraged not to consider the line items. The concern is that the bill is unfair, and the less citizens have it shoved in their face, the less likely we are to get a fairer tax code.
I'm a conservative, and I do believe the tax code is complex and onerous. Its made that way by lobbyists trying to get their special deals, and politicians using a revenue generation mechanism to push behavior.
The thought that its is only Intuit's 2.3MM/yr keeping the tax code complex is a bit bogus. There are many industries that rely on the current tax code's deductions and complexities to survive. The amount of money by companies, unions, and NGOs is staggering. They are backed by the helpful idiots in the media that continually preach that any tax code change is an assault on the poor. Even showing no understanding of basic math when deduction + flat rate taxes are suggested.
And yes, since I barely trust government accounting, having been the victim of a $1,000+ mistake which took a long time to resolve and hurt quite a bit and growing up under Indian Health Service, I don't believe in a return-free system. The thought anyone would take "trust us" from the IRS (or any government agency) is so foreign to my thinking, I just don't understand how it would work.
I believe in a flat rate tax with a larger base deductible with no social, moral, or lobbyist driven deductions. The IRS should have no political or social ties. It is there to raise revenue, nothing else.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
If $2.3MM/yr over 5 years is enough to reshape the trajectory of fundamental laws in this country, why aren't people just Kickstarter-ing cannabis decriminalization, marriage equality, and copyright law changes? My point is: that's not a lot of money. Not that I think you can get important changes done for $2.3MM. There is real conservative opposition to return-free filing. For instance, conservatives in general thin…
why aren't people just Kickstarter-ing cannabis decriminalization, marriage equality, and copyright law changes? I would imagine it's a lot cheaper to bribe a politician when: 1. The bribe doesn't get any publicity/press coverage/cause any embarrassment. Campaign donations from big corporations are "business as usual" and the politicians don't look corrupt in the press - but do the same way in a public, attention-gra…
tbh, i think he may not have been serious about the kickstarter analogy.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
If $2.3MM/yr over 5 years is enough to reshape the trajectory of fundamental laws in this country, why aren't people just Kickstarter-ing cannabis decriminalization, marriage equality, and copyright law changes? My point is: that's not a lot of money. Not that I think you can get important changes done for $2.3MM. There is real conservative opposition to return-free filing. For instance, conservatives in general thin…
If I can elaborate on that concern a bit: if government is allowed to be loud about transfer payments and quiet about taxes then it can successfully bribe the middle class with their own money. It is entirely possible to run a tax system without W-2 employees having to do a return at all. Many nations do it. American conservatives strongly prefer a government which is not sized like the government of those nations.
Causing extra suffering for millions of people just to make a political point is straight up evil in my book.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I can elaborate on that concern a bit: if government is allowed to be loud about transfer payments and quiet about taxes then it can successfully bribe the middle class with their own money. It is entirely possible to run a tax system without W-2 employees having to do a return at all. Many nations do it. American conservatives strongly prefer a government which is not sized like the government of those nations.
Causing extra suffering for millions of people just to make a political point is straight up evil in my book.
Not to mention it doesn't work. A lot of people think tax returns are free money from the government.