“Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this” • Hacker News Board

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Post by woodchuck64 » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:30 PM UTC

blackgear wrote: post #144

This is the end of a century. People in China had used 4 kinds of tools to skip the GFW: freegate, openvpn, goagnet, shadowsocks. freegate is a traditional http proxy or socks proxy built by Falun Gong ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong ). They built lots of software with the same technology: freegate gpass freeu dynapass... People share this kind of banned software sending to each others just like teenagers…

> I means recently more and more evidence shows that GFW has finally find a way to recognize shadowsocks's packets.

Hmm... okay, so they defeat shadowsocks by recognizing the packets.

> Then they stopped the development of shadowsocks.

But if they already had shadowsocks beat, why do they make a public show of shutting it down?

Sounds more like they recognize that they don't have the GFW technology to defeat shadowsocks on-going development over time. Which suggests all you need is a new developer.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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Post by vchynarov » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:31 PM UTC

adventured wrote: post #261

redmaverick wrote: post #229

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You can move to Canada. I think Canada is like USA: The good parts 1. There is gun control 2. Universal Health Care 3. They don't start wars

It's worth noting that Canada is one of the highest gun ownership societies on earth. They're 11th in the world in number of guns per capita. They have nearly as high of a gun ownership rate, in terms of the percentage of the population that owns at least a single gun, as the US.

That may be true statistically, but is that survey based on a nation-wide basis? I am asking because the culture between provinces and regions can vary extremely widely. I have lived in Canada for 17 yeara and no one I know has a firearm. Most of my friends and their families are the same. Which is to say that I've lived near Toronto and Southern Ontario, but where a sizable portion of the Canadian urban population lives. Of course there are many Canadians living in rural areas where owning firearms makes more sense, but culturally speaking, our gun ownership mindset is still generally far more restrictive. You'd be hard pressed to find a lot of gun owners in major cities and suburbs.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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Post by pluma » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:34 PM UTC

sbarre wrote: post #225

ColinWright wrote: post #186

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I'm always brought up short when someone says/writes "24/7/365" because it really doesn't make sense. "24/7" means 24 hours a day, seven days a week. "24/365" means 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. "24/7/365" means 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 weeks a year? I know, I know, it's become an idiom, and it's like "I could care less", and you can't try to understand it except as an atom that caries a meaning, but it…

24/7/365 7 *days* per *week* 24 *hours* per *day* 365 *days* per... *year* Why you'd read that as 365 weeks per year I'm not sure, because there's no pre-established convention that would lead you to interpret it that way (both 24 and 7 would have to be "per week"), and most people know there are 365 days in a year. Just trying to help. ;-)

So you read 24/7/365 as 7/24/365? That only makes sense to Americans, I guess.

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Post by MagerValp » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:38 PM UTC

archimedespi wrote: post #353

MagerValp wrote: post #126

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Don't be alarmist, worst case a cleaning tool would have to be run from recovery mode, but nuke and pave is usually the recommended cause of action if you get a infected with a rootkit. SIP holes will be found, and Apple will patch them just like other security flaws.

> Apple will patch them just like other security flaws With the condition that you have to upgrade to the very latest system :)

There are a few exceptions but generally you can stay one or two versions behind. While Apple annoyingly don't state how long they support OS releases, they currently ship security patches for 10.8 and 10.9. The last patch for Lion was just before the 10.10 release.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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Post by briandear » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:39 PM UTC

chronial wrote: post #331

andrepd wrote: post #321

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But nukes are the reason there haven't been any direct wars between major powers since WWII. Isn't that a good thing?

That is way to utilitarian for my liking. I am also personally convinced that Hitler (sorry ) was good for the western world in the long run (I think the lesson learnt will have more impact in the long run than the damage done), but you won't ever see me defending anything like the third reich.

So the murder of 8 million innocent people in gas chambers justified the means of teaching us a "lesson?" That is the sickest thing I've ever heard on here. That attitude is right up there with Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao. You aren't defending the third reich, you're worse; you're intellectualizing the "value" of Hitler. Millions of people killed. Babies grabbed from their mothers and stomped under bootheels. People dissected while stile alive. Woman (and men) raped in unimaginable ways in the name of science. Chemical agents administered to children simply to watch the effects.

Sure, Hitler was "good" in the long run. You should be ashamed of yourself. The ends don't justify the means. Perhaps when the next madman starts up extermination camps, your family ought to be first on the list. Perhaps that would be fitting since, after all, it would be good for Western Civilization.

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Post by mjklin » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:44 PM UTC

djyde wrote: post #120

As a Chinese developer, I got more and more disappointed to my country. I'd read a book written by LinYutang, called My Country and My People. All my understandings of my country after reading this book are not same as nowaday China. What's wrong? I don't know. I just wanna have freedom for Googleing. I just wanna the people in this country be happy not only because they get enough to eat.

+1 for Lin Yutang, he is an amazing writer who sparked my interest in China. I lived there two years and met my wife. Xie xie Lin Xiansheng!

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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Post by gcb0 » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:49 PM UTC

mrb wrote: post #54

I was visiting China recently (my first time there). I thought bypassing The Great Firewall was going to be as simple as an "ssh -D" SOCKS setup, or a "ssh -w" tunnel. Oh boy, I was wrong. If you try this, or even a basic OpenVPN setup, you will quickly find out your VPN works fine for about 5 minutes, but then latency increases to 5sec, 10sec, 30sec(!), and then everything times out. After some research I read onlin…

which leads me to two questions:

1. if you need custom vpn, why even have apple devices?!

2. why focus on vpn over their network instead of mesh?

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Post by nickysielicki » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:51 PM UTC

ColinWright wrote: post #230

sbarre wrote: post #225

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24/7/365 7 *days* per *week* 24 *hours* per *day* 365 *days* per... *year* Why you'd read that as 365 weeks per year I'm not sure, because there's no pre-established convention that would lead you to interpret it that way (both 24 and 7 would have to be "per week"), and most people know there are 365 days in a year. Just trying to help. ;-)

But it doesn't make sense to say: 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. That just really doesn't make sense at all. I know that the numbers means, and are for, but if someone is saying every hour in the year, to say 24/7/365 is just nonsense. Of course, this is a losing battle. People just don't care if what they say makes sense, they just say stuff and assume that people will understand. This is one of the…

Hey, FWIW, you've completely convinced me to never use this phrase again.

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Post by gcb0 » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:51 PM UTC

dujiulun2006 wrote: post #184

0xFFC wrote: post #140

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I am in Iran , you cannot believe it , same here , They use deep packet inspection too, they will shut every package down. every open vpn , cisco vpn , etc connection will lose connection every 2-3 min . Connection to outside web is almost impossible. I have noticed they have multiple situation, for example when everything's quiet internet is not so bad (despite the fact bandwidth is extremely low for huge amount of…

I'm not sure but I suspect that they got the technology (hardware and software) from China too. As a Chinese netizen I don't know if I should be proud that we have world-class advanced technology or be ashamed. Possibly ashamed.

be sure soon the dev will be cordially invited to write the deep inspector for that vpn if it ever leaves the ground.

and i wonder if filling the apple form helped them finding him or it was just bad timing

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Post by dredmorbius » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 4:51 PM UTC

ColinWright wrote: post #186

loser777 wrote: post #91

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Very interesting... I was just in China recently and was sshing into a box I had in the states for an impromptu SOCKS proxy. I did notice that things would work fine for up to an hour or so before things started bogging down. I would start seeing "channel x: open failed..." errors. However, closing the session and reconnecting would fix the problem... until it started lagging out again. I thought it was just a conseq…

I'm always brought up short when someone says/writes "24/7/365" because it really doesn't make sense. "24/7" means 24 hours a day, seven days a week. "24/365" means 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. "24/7/365" means 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 weeks a year? I know, I know, it's become an idiom, and it's like "I could care less", and you can't try to understand it except as an atom that caries a meaning, but it…

The slashes aren't maths operators, they're language/grammar/shorthand. The lexeme as a whole is merely a mnemonic for the linger phrase: "24 hours per day, 7 days per week, 365 days per year."

It's not that the individual segments relate to each other. Rather they answer three sets of questions:

What are your daily hours? All of them. 24 hours / day.

What weekdays are you open? Again, all of them. 7 days/week.

What holidays do you observe per year? None, we're open 365 days/year.

Since there's rarely a monthly cycle to business closings and there aren't a standard number of days per month, that's elided.

It also helps to realize that human timekeeping is really based on three independent phenomena which are utterly unrelated. There are day-based units: seconds, minutes, and hours are all subdivisions of the period of rotation of Earth about its axis.

The month is based on the Moons orbit about Earth. That it is roughly 30 days is a notional convenience, similarly its rough divisibility by 4 into 7 day periods. The week is entirely synthetic (though profoundly persistent).

And the year on Earth's orbit about the Sun. Again, relationship to days and months are entirely arbitrary.

That's why it often seems time units are arbitrary. They are.

There's a brief book which Kay's this ought and traces the calendar through time, The Seven Day Cycle.