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Where should the “6” key be?

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Re: Where should the “6” key be?

#11
After investing in a Truly Ergonomic[0] keyboard, I personally don't want ever again to use a keyboard with asymmetrically staggered keys. Having a perfectly mirrored layout is much nicer to use. The 6 on it is on the right, if that matters.

[0] That's the brand name, it's not really truly ergonomic, or at least not as designed for ergonomics as a Kinesis. Homepage/store: http://www.trulyergonomic.com

Re: Where should the “6” key be?

#13
post #4

A side comment, as it's the first time I see the "ultimate hacking keyboard": Whenever I see a keyboard with an "Fn" key, I sigh. This means that the designer of the keyboard thought he knows better which functions I need and took valuable space in the modifier row for a key which I will probably never use. Media control functions? Come on. Most keyboards that have an "Fn" key do not allow you to remap it in any way…

Best i can tell, you can create your own keymaps covering on all of the four "layers" reachable via modifier keys.

Re: Where should the “6” key be?

#14
post #8
post #4

A side comment, as it's the first time I see the "ultimate hacking keyboard": Whenever I see a keyboard with an "Fn" key, I sigh. This means that the designer of the keyboard thought he knows better which functions I need and took valuable space in the modifier row for a key which I will probably never use. Media control functions? Come on. Most keyboards that have an "Fn" key do not allow you to remap it in any way…

From the main page: "It's important to note that the above are only the layers of the factory keymap. You can redefine them in any way and create multiple, custom, application-specific keymaps."

I don't notice anywhere in the description which clarifies if the Fn key itself can be changed to, say, ctrl or alt.

I also would avoid this (otherwise nice) keyboard if Fn could not be changed to a standard modifier.

Re: Where should the “6” key be?

#15
post #4

A side comment, as it's the first time I see the "ultimate hacking keyboard": Whenever I see a keyboard with an "Fn" key, I sigh. This means that the designer of the keyboard thought he knows better which functions I need and took valuable space in the modifier row for a key which I will probably never use. Media control functions? Come on. Most keyboards that have an "Fn" key do not allow you to remap it in any way…

Even worse. Many new laptop keyboards have the media control buttons be the default behavior, and require the "Fn" key to access the F keys.

Re: Where should the “6” key be?

#16
post #4

A side comment, as it's the first time I see the "ultimate hacking keyboard": Whenever I see a keyboard with an "Fn" key, I sigh. This means that the designer of the keyboard thought he knows better which functions I need and took valuable space in the modifier row for a key which I will probably never use. Media control functions? Come on. Most keyboards that have an "Fn" key do not allow you to remap it in any way…

I actually use media control keys very often when playing music on my laptop, much much quicker than going into an app first.

I actually like the how OS X by default uses the fn functionality, and you press fn to access f1, f2 etc.. Except for very few games, I never actually use those keys anyways. And even then I use something like Palua[0] to automatically enable/disable the fn key based on the app that is currently in focus.

[0] http://itunes.apple.com/app/palua/id431494195

Re: Where should the “6” key be?

#18
post #4

A side comment, as it's the first time I see the "ultimate hacking keyboard": Whenever I see a keyboard with an "Fn" key, I sigh. This means that the designer of the keyboard thought he knows better which functions I need and took valuable space in the modifier row for a key which I will probably never use. Media control functions? Come on. Most keyboards that have an "Fn" key do not allow you to remap it in any way…

Even worse. Many new laptop keyboards have the media control buttons be the default behavior, and require the "Fn" key to access the F keys.

You can almost always swap that in the BIOS or the OS

Re: Where should the “6” key be?

#20
post #6

As someone who hits the "b" key with their right hand when typing, I find it encouraging that they're splitting that off to the right side, as the vast majority of "ergonomic" keyboards put it on the left side, as the home row method of typing instruction recommends. (I learned my non-standard method of touch typing playing MUD's via telnet in the mid-nineties)

The split keyboards themselves feel completely unnatural to me, because I press the middle keys differently, depending on what letters are immediately preceding the key in question. For example, when typing "keyboard", I type 'y' with my right hand, whereas while typing "completely, I type 'y' with my left hand. In both cases, it means that I don't need to stretch my hands as much.

If an ergonomic keyboard does not include duplication of the middle keys, it adds quite a bit of confusion when I reach for a key that isn't there.

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