I seldom wonder; what is that the Chinese government aims to gain from all this oppression? What any government hopes to gain? North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, China, Russia (?) etc....What exactly do they want?
“Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
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Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
#282This feels rather suspicious to me. Either the police are complete idiots (because people have forked his code and you can still get it from the forks) or there is more to the story.
It would make more sense to just send a DMCA takedown for that plus all forks to ensure that the streisand effect doesn't come into play. Because now I gotta grab a fork and squirrel it away - even though I'm in the US I feel like this is important stuff to keep.
Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 2) Has a rapidly adaptive culture, able to implement changes at a fast pace despite its immense scale. That includes things like legalizing and decriminalizing drugs, which is now underway across numerous states, and marriage equality. The US is able to implement seemingly big changes quickly, but they're not necessarily as big as you think them to be. "Marriage equality" (a name many disagree with, by the way) is…
> is not a massive change In fact marriage equality, and the increasingly broad acceptance of homosexuality in America, is an extraordinary accomplishment. And it's only going to keep getting better. That contrasts sharply with the majority of the world, that is the exact opposite and opposed to marriage equality. > If you exclude the places where murder happens most, of course you appear to have a low murder rate. N…
> In fact marriage equality, and the increasingly broad acceptance of homosexuality in America, is an extraordinary accomplishment.
It is an accomplishment, for sure! The Western world (not just America) has become much more tolerant of gay people.
And yet, while the US has had white people getting more tolerant or even accepting of white gay people, white people have not been getting more tolerant of black people.
In fact, the US has recently stepped backwards in some places, such as the end of the Voting Rights Act.
By all means, celebrate the progress that some people have made in the US. But bear in mind others have made none.
> The US is almost so diverse at this point, that it will soon have no majority.
Majorities and minorities matter less than who holds power. In Apartheid South Africa, black people were the majority.
> The parent comment claimed unarmed minorities were being killed left and right. In fact, there are typically around 500 police caused deaths per year in the US, a small fraction of which are unarmed minorities that are shot, and a fraction of which are unjustified in terms of use of force.
Only a few of which are unjustified? Really? In most civilised nations, police shoot orders of magnitude less people.
Also, the idea that it only matters if unarmed minorities are shot in the US is abhorrent. In the US, you may legally carry arms.
> Nearly half of those deaths are white people, not minorities.
The fact poor white people are also shot is itself alarming.
> To put these numbers in context, China executes 2,500+ people per year,
China isn't a rich, Western nation. It's not a fair point of comparison.
> I find it fascinating how you excuse the success of Asian Americans by slandering them as privileged.
It's not slander, and I don't mean to say they face no discrimination, but they do face a much easier time than, say, black people in the United States.
> Fact: Asians in America are among the richest Asians on earth; Blacks in America are the richest blacks on earth; Latinos in America are the richest Latinos on earth.
Yes, but absolute (if you can even call it that: exchange rates vary) wealth doesn't matter. US Black and hispanic people are living in poverty by US standards.
> Nope, America has the world's largest middle class, and has good upward mobility:
It also has a massive number of people in poverty who cannot move up the latter.
> You very clearly don't have to be rich at all to do well in America.
The whole "upward mobility" concept relies on you eventually being rich. If the metaphorical ladder never reaches you (and for millions of people, it never does), no, you don't do well.
And by "rich" I do not mean upper class. Middle class people are, relatively speaking, rich.
Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
#284This feels rather suspicious to me. Either the police are complete idiots (because people have forked his code and you can still get it from the forks) or there is more to the story. It would make more sense to just send a DMCA takedown for that plus all forks to ensure that the streisand effect doesn't come into play. Because now I gotta grab a fork and squirrel it away - even though I'm in the US I feel like this i…
And how would DMCA apply in this case?
Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's true. But immigration for Chinese is much more harder than you think. Even in China, it is not completely free to move from one province to another.
I can imagine that this is not easy. I'd like to hear some ideas to that though, as I lack all the details on what's going on there (just been there once on a business trip - and I know they treat foreigners with money much different)
I'm from there, I think the 'difficult' part is, that there might be tons of success stories on getting out of the country but none will give you a definite route on how, especially if you are already high profile. The things move around inside china are mostly per incident based, rules and regulation means almost nothing because every step of the way is dependent on the interpretation (and of course, mood) of the officer who can stamp on your paper.
I guess the most low profile thing for clowwindy to do is do as police have instructed and lay low for at least 1 year. If after that he is allowed to travel abroad then he can apply to big co like Google/Facebook and apply visa with work permit.
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
Leave to where? To a country where 1. a few rich people control the entire political process by buying out politicians. 2. where there are frequent shootings and you are never safe due to some idiotic Constitutional amendment. 3. where regularly unarmed minorities are shot dead by the police and the majority jury allow them to go unpunished. 4. where there is no mandate to give workers paid leave include those with a…
You can move to Canada. I think Canada is like USA: The good parts 1. There is gun control 2. Universal Health Care 3. They don't start wars
Canada has it's own problems with ISPs [1]. I still haven't figured out why businesses have to be so greedy...like I don't believe it's one guy going "I'M HUNGRY MORE MONEY".
[1] http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Bell-Canada-Confirms-Thro...
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#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can move to Canada. I think Canada is like USA: The good parts 1. There is gun control 2. Universal Health Care 3. They don't start wars
It's worth noting that Canada is one of the highest gun ownership societies on earth. They're 11th in the world in number of guns per capita. They have nearly as high of a gun ownership rate, in terms of the percentage of the population that owns at least a single gun, as the US.
Charlton Heston said it best on bowling for columbine.
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#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, to the country that is: 1) A leader in freedom of speech, press freedom, property rights protections, general freedom of movement, and is low on the corruption index. One of the few countries with extraordinarily well protected freedom of speech rights enshrined at the core of the nation. 2) Has a rapidly adaptive culture, able to implement changes at a fast pace despite its immense scale. That includes things li…
> 12) Where unarmed minorities are not regularly shot dead by the police Well, that's nonsense. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-p...
In fact it's not non-sense.
The word of emphasis is regularly.
A rough average of 500 police caused deaths per year across 20 years. It spikes and drops by significant amounts by year, but that's a reasonable ballpark average and is near The Guardian's number.
Now break out how many were unjustified uses of force.
Now break out how many were not white (nearly half the people killed by cops are white).
You're talking about maybe 40 or 50 unarmed minorities shot dead by police each year, out of around 140 million total minorities (40% minority base, plus 12 million minorities that aren't citizens). And this is in a country with police that are clearly too violent.
Your odds of being murdered by police, as an unarmed minority, is about one in 2.5 to 3 million. To pretend unarmed minorities are being regularly shot dead by police is beyond ridiculous.
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#289https://github.com/Long-live-shadowsocks/shadowsocks The original repositories have been/are being reset. (Some branches were not removed.) Non-obvious ways to search for forks as the network graph is unavailable for larger projects. https://github.com/search?utf8=&q=shadowsocks+language%3APyt...
I don't think it's suitable to distribute the backups until shadowsocks is fade from the gov's memory.
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#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suppose that means OpenVPN and SSH are too secure for the Chinese government to eavesdrop on. PPTP, on the other hand, has been known to be insecure for ages. So... could you avoid detection by passing an SSH tunnel through a PPTP VPN? Add enough layers, and the censors might not bother to unwrap all of them.
Given that most US websites are now over HTTPS, breaking PPTP won't actually give Chinese government much information to eavesdrop on. They may know that someone is accessing Google or Twitter, but they cannot know the actual keywords or tweets they are reading. Note that Chinese government does not have backdoor access to those US websites, nor do they control a significant fraction of Internet infrastructure.
What about Chinese signed root certs?