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Post by adventured »

redmaverick wrote: post #229
radmuzom wrote: post #189

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Leave to where? To a country where 1. a few rich people control the entire political process by buying out politicians. 2. where there are frequent shootings and you are never safe due to some idiotic Constitutional amendment. 3. where regularly unarmed minorities are shot dead by the police and the majority jury allow them to go unpunished. 4. where there is no mandate to give workers paid leave include those with a…

You can move to Canada. I think Canada is like USA: The good parts 1. There is gun control 2. Universal Health Care 3. They don't start wars

It's worth noting that Canada is one of the highest gun ownership societies on earth. They're 11th in the world in number of guns per capita. They have nearly as high of a gun ownership rate, in terms of the percentage of the population that owns at least a single gun, as the US.

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Post by rsy96 »

wogong wrote: post #129
xiaq wrote: post #19

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Maybe they are going to block or attack GitHub again until GitHub takes down all clones of it.

They will, one day. anyway Gmail was gone, which I think is the most impossible site to be blocked. PS: nice to see you here. :)

I was shocked to see Gmail blocked, given how many business users were dependent on it. Previously they didn't censor websites critical to business and economy, but now they seem to be prioritizing control of speech over economic development.

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Post by kjs3 »

throwawayaway wrote: post #248
sildur wrote: post #228

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China invaded Tibet on false pretenses.

What's the bodycount? Incidentally, may I ask how far back in history you are going, is it something more recent than this: > In October 1950, the People's Liberation Army entered the Tibetan area of Chamdo, defeating sporadic resistance from the Tibetan army. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tibet#1950_to_prese... This? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Tibetan_unrest#Casualties...

How many bodies do you need before you care?

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Post by rsy96 »

kijin wrote: post #135
Laforet wrote: post #103

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This might sound a bit counter intuitive but they really hate OpenVPN and SSH tunnels - not to mention they are trivial to detect and the process is highly automated. Traditional VPNs such as PPTP/IPsec as well as various forms of obfuscated proxies are generally not interfered with unless something major happens. A lot of the alleged "censorship" are actually symptoms of high latency and packet loss on home connecti…

I suppose that means OpenVPN and SSH are too secure for the Chinese government to eavesdrop on. PPTP, on the other hand, has been known to be insecure for ages. So... could you avoid detection by passing an SSH tunnel through a PPTP VPN? Add enough layers, and the censors might not bother to unwrap all of them.

Given that most US websites are now over HTTPS, breaking PPTP won't actually give Chinese government much information to eavesdrop on. They may know that someone is accessing Google or Twitter, but they cannot know the actual keywords or tweets they are reading.

Note that Chinese government does not have backdoor access to those US websites, nor do they control a significant fraction of Internet infrastructure.

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Post by DanBC »

adventured wrote: post #217
radmuzom wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Leave to where? To a country where 1. a few rich people control the entire political process by buying out politicians. 2. where there are frequent shootings and you are never safe due to some idiotic Constitutional amendment. 3. where regularly unarmed minorities are shot dead by the police and the majority jury allow them to go unpunished. 4. where there is no mandate to give workers paid leave include those with a…

No, to the country that is: 1) A leader in freedom of speech, press freedom, property rights protections, general freedom of movement, and is low on the corruption index. One of the few countries with extraordinarily well protected freedom of speech rights enshrined at the core of the nation. 2) Has a rapidly adaptive culture, able to implement changes at a fast pace despite its immense scale. That includes things li…

> 12) Where unarmed minorities are not regularly shot dead by the police

Well, that's nonsense.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-p...

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Post by userbinator »

mrb wrote: post #54

I was visiting China recently (my first time there). I thought bypassing The Great Firewall was going to be as simple as an "ssh -D" SOCKS setup, or a "ssh -w" tunnel. Oh boy, I was wrong. If you try this, or even a basic OpenVPN setup, you will quickly find out your VPN works fine for about 5 minutes, but then latency increases to 5sec, 10sec, 30sec(!), and then everything times out. After some research I read onlin…

Encryption is not enough. You need to disguise your VPN traffic to make it look like standard HTTPS sessions (since they don't block HTTPS).

In other words, steganography.

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Post by finalink »

mobutu wrote: post #104

On this note, we've been trying to upload gigabytes of data via rsync from Europe to China (we are software company who are trying to deliver tools to our Chinese customers..). Connection used to be fast when it was night time in China, but lately the connection has been really slow or unusable. Is there any alternative way to get lots of packages from Western countries to China?

Copy it to an AWS EC2 Japan server, and copy it to China from Japan. I have transferred 1T data from Europe to China with this method.

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Post by hobs »

chronial wrote: post #240
cLeEOGPw wrote: post #236

Any technology can be used for both good and bad. There's nothing inherently wrong with technology.

No, that is not true. Look at the atomic bomb for example. The technology here is not just nuclear fission – the bomb itself has a lot of unique technology. There can be a lot inherently wrong with technology, and there quite often is.

What about all the Peaceful Nuclear Explosions (PNE)? The nuke is extremely destructive and extremely dangerous, but its not inherently wrong, they have been used to close gas wells by the Russians, and I am pretty sure the US had the plowshares program.

There are definitely some arguments that we could have used conventional explosives for those purposes, but my point is that a nuke is just a tool, its the people who decide to use it admirably or despicably.

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Post by phlyingpenguin »

Coding_Cat wrote: post #198
bitinn wrote: post #63

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And to add more context: Shadowsocks isn't just a tool nowadays, it's a group of applications that target both developers and common folks. People have built successful VPN services using Shadowsocks, and they are available on many platforms, like routers and embedded systems. And the iOS version is more or less the author's recent efforts to build a VPN client that can run on non-jailbroken iPhone, much like Cisco A…

What is to stop any non-chinese person from rehosting the old code? I mean, they obviously wouldn't like it and if I was said person I'd never visit China's sphere of influence again...

There are tons of forks of it on GitHub, naturally. I had to go to one to figure out what the project was.

https://github.com/shadowsocks/shadowsocks-iOS/network

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