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Petition UK government to not ban encryption

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Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#11

They're not going to ban encryption. Seriously. Stop wasting time on misquotes taken out of context blown up by The Guardian. There's more important things to worry about.

The point of this petition, even though it looks at first blush to be taking down a straw man, is to send a shot across the bow.

Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#12
It really worries me that the leader of our nation does not appear to have all the information required in order to make a decision on a topic as important as this. I would have thought that a domain expert within government would have be consulted before Cameron goes off half cocked in debates and discussions.

With technology a key and growing industry within the UK, shouldn't we expect our leaders to at least attempt to understand the issues around governance?

Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#13
post #6

Honestly. I'd like to see them try to ban it. They'll see their entire internet economy crash and hell will break loose. People getting pissed why they can't login to gmail or facebook or paypal or do any online shopping. It's such an entirely ridiculous idea that i can't even describe it in words. Okay to be honest I haven't really read into the material. but is their actual plan to "ban" encryption? Or do they want…

I don't think anyone is dumb enough to actually prevent the electorate logging into facebook. I expect the language to be broad and the enforcement narrow.

> I expect the language to be broad and the enforcement narrow.

That's the worst kind of law - you can be locked up at a prosecutors whim.

In the UK, it's already illegal not to disclose the key to an encrypted file.

Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#14
It's pretty staggering that the FBI and gov.uk should choose now — a time of daily, massive security breaches dominating the headlines — to have the "your security is too good" conversation with tech companies. And, compared to the last time we went through this idiocy, they now refuse to put any specific proposals on the table. The whole enterprise is an embarrassment, and not going to happen in a million years.

Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#15
For the record Cameron was not suggesting on banning everything that uses encryption. Primary seeking a ban on end-to-end encryption messaging applications (ie, textsecure/signal, whatsapp, snapchat) that does no provide the UK government with a backdoor.

Its still a terrifying idea, and shouldn't be allowed to happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encryption_ban_proposal_in_the...

Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#16
Urgh. This should be better phrased. From the BoingBoing article:

David Cameron says there should be no "means of communication" which "we cannot read"

It's very specific to communication, and reading between the lines, messaging, as opposed to something like HTTP communication between a bank and a customer. Don't get me wrong, it's still incredibly stupid, but the government will be able to reply to this petition with "we do not intend to ban encryption" and close it.

Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#17
Cameron doesn't want to ban encryption. he wants encrypted end to end messaging services to have backdoor keys for the security services use. which is stupid, but very different to banning encryption.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favour of this, but the distinction is clear and false misinformation isn't going to help prevent this.

Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#19

Honestly. I'd like to see them try to ban it. They'll see their entire internet economy crash and hell will break loose. People getting pissed why they can't login to gmail or facebook or paypal or do any online shopping. It's such an entirely ridiculous idea that i can't even describe it in words. Okay to be honest I haven't really read into the material. but is their actual plan to "ban" encryption? Or do they want…

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Re: Petition UK government to not ban encryption

#20
post #16

Urgh. This should be better phrased. From the BoingBoing article: David Cameron says there should be no "means of communication" which "we cannot read" It's very specific to communication, and reading between the lines, messaging, as opposed to something like HTTP communication between a bank and a customer. Don't get me wrong, it's still incredibly stupid, but the government will be able to reply to this petition wi…

Apparently our politicians should understand infosec to demand policy, but the people don't have to understand their goverment to demand policy.
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