Hey HN, creator of Nihongo here! I spent a long time studying Japanese vocabulary using Anki, Flashcards Deluxe, etc., but I found that studying using premade word lists never worked that well for me. Nihongo is built around studying the words you're encountering naturally through your own hobbies and interests. Flashcard packs are automatically generated from the words that you look up in the built-in dictionary. Yo…
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By default, the backside of the card has the first "sense" from JMDict on it. This sense is supposed to represent the primary meaning of the word. You can also add/replace that with the other senses by editing the flashcard, or you can add your own notes to the back. I've found using the first sense works pretty well. Having the whole definition on the back is way too much for your brain to process, but the first sen…
I've been studying the language for a while, and recently made the switch to Japanese-Japanese dictionaries, after using EDICT for a long time. This has highlighted some reservations I have about it. The most available example (not the best) is 適当, where it can be interchangeably be used to mean "adequate" and "half-assed", sort of sarcastically. The definition being a mostly undifferentiated bag of words, without ne…
Edit: by the way, I once stumbled upon an online dictionary that also showed the "standard" intonation for words (something that I've very rarely seen mentioned), but I can't find it again :(
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#75Disclaimer: I am developing a free japanese dictionary for android
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#76OP, this is wonderful. I'm a long time japanese learner and I wrote the iOS Anki app. Just looking through the website (unfortunately I don't have an iOS device on hand), you've got some killer features here that I've wanted for a long time. 'clippings' looks really excellent. I would go so far as to say this is a game-changer for me as it currently stands. If you took the same idea and went bigger, that would be awe…
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Yeah, unfortunately I find the content in Aozora Bunko not all that interesting. Or at least, I don't know how to find good content in it. I actually built a proof-of-concept of a "Books" tab in Nihongo using Aozora Bunko, but I found it sort of unsatisfying, so I never pursued it further. I haven't used Wakaru before, I'll have to check that out. I'll explore the audiovisual ideas more, that's pretty interesting, th…
I've got the same problem with finding decent content in Aozora Bunko. For me, the main issue is how to find content which matches my level (actually being interesting being the other problem, but seemingly harder to solve). I set up a really hacky "grader" algorithm and run it on a bunch of the Aozora Bunko books, then put them online [1]. The very "easiest" books are kinda boring, but it is certainly easier finding…
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I would LOVE to have integration with e-books, I think that could totally change the way I learn Japanese. Since over time the app learns what words you know and what words you don't, it could even suggest books for you that are around the right difficulty level. Wouldn't that be amazing? Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any place where you can purchase DRM-free e-books, so I think this would require workin…
> The one exception is the Harry Potter books Harry Potter is notorious among Japanese readers for having a horribly inaccurate translation. Example: http://islaya.sarashi.com/haripota01.html
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#79OP, this is wonderful. I'm a long time japanese learner and I wrote the iOS Anki app. Just looking through the website (unfortunately I don't have an iOS device on hand), you've got some killer features here that I've wanted for a long time. 'clippings' looks really excellent. I would go so far as to say this is a game-changer for me as it currently stands. If you took the same idea and went bigger, that would be awe…
I have also been at it for a while now. What I notice nowadays is that the same English->Japanese cards keep coming up quite often, because they have very similar cards/synonyms. Therefore, when adding new words, I take extra precaution to come up with a short 2-4 word sentence that is unique enough and captures the meaning quite well. Sometimes it might take me a few tries though, when I end up confusing it with ano…
With regards to English->Japanese cards, I actually decided not to support them in the app. I used to study with both J->E and E->J flashcards, but I find that E->J gets you into the habit of thinking about one-to-one relationships between words in English and Japanese, when most of the time the relationship is not that simple. I found it more effective to study only J->E, and internalize the general meaning and "feeling" of the word. Then, as you start to encounter it in natural contexts, you'll internalize the subtleties to the meaning. When you go to produce Japanese, it's best not to start from English and translate to Japanese anyway, so I found the most important thing was to internalize the Japanese words.
The whole experience you mentioned where you either didn't create flashcards for words you encountered, or stopped reading to catch up on generating flashcards is exactly why I built Clippings. And you're right, they aren't going to be perfect, but I still think it's way better than doing it manually. 手入れ is a good example, here's how that would work in Nihongo:
When you create a clipping that included 手入れ, a flashcard gets created with 手入れ on the front, and "repairs, maintenance, tending, trimming, grooming" on the back. That's the primary meaning in the dictionary. If you get to that flashcard, and that doesn't sound right, you can edit the flashcard to add to or replace that backside text with "crackdown, (police) raid". There's no way we can know which meaning was intended in the text, but we can at least make it easy to edit. And if you want, you can always add your own custom text to be displayed on the back of the flashcard. If I encounter a sentence that really clearly shows how the word is used, I'll often add that on the back in addition to the dictionary meaning.
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#80OP, this is wonderful. I'm a long time japanese learner and I wrote the iOS Anki app. Just looking through the website (unfortunately I don't have an iOS device on hand), you've got some killer features here that I've wanted for a long time. 'clippings' looks really excellent. I would go so far as to say this is a game-changer for me as it currently stands. If you took the same idea and went bigger, that would be awe…
Every feature in this app except the flash cards already exist in "imi wa" that has been available for years.