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Re: Ask HN: When you can't fall asleep, what do you do?

#11
Read a physical book (not a computer, phone, or tablet screen) — I've been reading this monstrous tome lately, and it's been a great change from Facebook and Twitter: http://www.amazon.com/Aperture-Magazine-Anthology-Minor-1952.... A Kindle is an ok fallback (for me at least)

Get some exercise — I feel way better after running even just 1 mile. I did 3 earlier tonight, and can barely keep my eyes open right now.

Don't drink — Your sleep isn't as restful: http://time.com/3671777/drinking-sleep

Don't drink coffee after x PM — I always cut myself off from caffeine by 4pm, and try to do it by 2pm. Find out what's right for you.

Take some melatonin — It did me a lot of good when I used to have trouble sleeping.

Address the sources of anxiety in your life — A comparison of how well I sleep now vs. when I had a lot of anxiety in my life (stress from working at Microsoft, stress from trying to drag along my faltering startup, etc.) is stark. I don't fall asleep with much or any worry most nights.

Worst case scenario: ask a doctor to prescribe you Ambien or the like. Re-establish a decent sleeping pattern, and then figure out how to address everything else.

Edit: There's one thing I want to mention about exercising. I started running only two months ago after what essentially amounts to a lifetime of non-exercise. I wasn't overweight by any means—I was just plain skinny. Like, sort of the way you expect your average nerd to be skinny. After my first run of barely a mile (walking about half of it), I wondered if I was going to have a heart attack. I didn't, thankfully. And now, two months later, I can run a longer distance than my first run/walk with basically no trouble whatsoever. I feel great, have more energy, and sleep better.

You don't even have to start running. Just start walking. Here's a better story than I can offer you at the moment on the value of this: http://www.loopinsight.com/2015/06/16/apple-watch-my-most-pe... and http://www.loopinsight.com/2015/06/18/follow-up-to-how-i-los...

You don't need an Apple Watch. You don't need a health tracker. Just move. It feels better every day, and—I promise—within a month or two you'll start craving it. It's an awesome feeling.

Re: Ask HN: When you can't fall asleep, what do you do?

#12
I think falling a sleep at will can be done by either getting too tired or too bored. I generally watch / read something really boring (e.g. I cannot stand biology related books or youtube video teaching biology. Sometimes I force my self to watch / read a boring books / videos and in 15min I start yawning and soon sleep.

Another thing I do is I climb stairs to my house (I stay on the 6th floor and have to climb more than 100 steps)

Re: Ask HN: When you can't fall asleep, what do you do?

#14

Read a physical book (not a computer, phone, or tablet screen) — I've been reading this monstrous tome lately, and it's been a great change from Facebook and Twitter: http://www.amazon.com/Aperture-Magazine-Anthology-Minor-1952... . A Kindle is an ok fallback (for me at least) Get some exercise — I feel way better after running even just 1 mile. I did 3 earlier tonight, and can barely keep my eyes open right now. Don…

Great advice. Especially the part about anxiety... he said as reading hackernews at midnight to avoid sleeping.

Re: Ask HN: When you can't fall asleep, what do you do?

#16

Read a physical book (not a computer, phone, or tablet screen) — I've been reading this monstrous tome lately, and it's been a great change from Facebook and Twitter: http://www.amazon.com/Aperture-Magazine-Anthology-Minor-1952... . A Kindle is an ok fallback (for me at least) Get some exercise — I feel way better after running even just 1 mile. I did 3 earlier tonight, and can barely keep my eyes open right now. Don…

Great advice. Especially the part about anxiety... he said as reading hackernews at midnight to avoid sleeping.

I was waiting for a build to finish ;) I was planning on getting to bed before midnight, but got wrapped up in some fun 'work'. Thought I'd come back here once to see what folks had said on this thread, and then call it a night.

Are you this Tim Schumann? http://projectskyhook.com

edit: to be clear, not that I'm previously familiar with your work; just noticed that you must be another left-coaster, and decided to Google you. And, assuming you are the aforementioned Tim Schumann, hi from a somewhat near neighbor in Seattle.

Re: Ask HN: When you can't fall asleep, what do you do?

#17
Stop trying to fall asleep!

Lie on your bed. Relax. Instead of trying to fall asleep (and thinking about it) think about making yourself as comfortable as possible. Turn this way, move your arm that way,... Once you've done it, the sleep usually follows. In short, think comfort not sleep.

P.S.

I've used to have troubles falling asleep, but that simple method helped me to solve the problem. I would give the credit to the original author, but I can't remember where I read it.

Re: Ask HN: When you can't fall asleep, what do you do?

#19
Not really what OP asked, but I think it's far more important to try and fix the cause of why you can't go to sleep, instead of working on the symptoms.

1. Try to go to bed at the same time every day (and sleep the same amount of time). I'm a night owl and can easily move my day on, but moving it back is very difficult.

2. Sleeping ritual. Mine is pretty simple, I turn the lights off, climb in bed and lie on my right hand side. After a bit (1-10 minutes) I will turn over and then I'm pretty much immediately asleep. If you repeat something it will become ingrained (and will work most of the time).

3. Fix all sources of disturbances. Partner, pets, light, noise etc.

4. Learning to switch your brain off. Try not to watch/read something that's too emotionally charged before bed.

5. After that everything else that has already been mentioned, eating too close to going to bed, having drunk something so you need to get up to pee etc.

For most people sleep shouldn't be a problem, they just have terrible habits and/or environment.

Re: Ask HN: When you can't fall asleep, what do you do?

#20
I mostly get restless when I'm excited about something (much like kids on Christmas Eve).

Its particularly bad tonight/this morning; I found Elixir a few days ago, and I keep thinking about doing things with it.

Often I'll try to go to bed, get in some weird thought-state, and "wake" back up with a fully planned project in my head I just absolutely have to get worked out.... or.... rather, usually, some really weird/dumb idea that I thought was great and probably shouldn't have wasted the night on.

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