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Re: OnHub

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Post by noselasd »

hobarrera wrote: post #423
cmrdporcupine wrote: post #285

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The router is cloud configured from your mobile device, that is how it works. Some cloud services for the device are actually optional. But AFAIK you still need a Google Account. Here is the help page on the topic of data collection and privacy: https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6246642?hl=en&ref_to... And see also, how to set a whole bunch of privacy settings: https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6279845?vi…

> The router is cloud configured from your mobile device, that is how it works. How do I configure a router if I need an internet connection to configure it? Sounds like a circular dependency issue.

It's a wirless bridge, and it assumes you already have a router with an internet connection(i.e. your cable/dsl/fiber box). Setup instructions are here:

https://support.google.com/onhub/answer/6246481?hl=en

Re: OnHub

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Post by VikingCoder »

ksk wrote: post #619
VikingCoder wrote: post #609

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I fail to see how copying my data to more companies reduces my attack surface. > all incentive to data mine it for profit. Yes, and it has all incentive to protect my privacy, because if they screw that up, they lose all of my business, and all of everyone else's business, too.

>Yes, and it has all incentive to protect my privacy, because if they screw that up, they lose all of my business, and all of everyone else's business, too. There have been innumerable data breaches and we haven't seen those companies go bankrupt.

I pay attention to the data breaches. Google is one of the best companies out there.

Re: OnHub

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Post by ksk »

VikingCoder wrote: post #632
ksk wrote: post #619

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>Yes, and it has all incentive to protect my privacy, because if they screw that up, they lose all of my business, and all of everyone else's business, too. There have been innumerable data breaches and we haven't seen those companies go bankrupt.

I pay attention to the data breaches. Google is one of the best companies out there.

I agree. My point still stands. The industry as a whole is terrible at keeping data secure.

Re: OnHub

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Post by mrwilliamchang »

mrwilliamchang wrote: post #302
adriancooney wrote: post #3

Very interesting. From looking at the specs, it looks like they're packaging a server and marketing it as a router. The configuration app is a very nice touch, routers have always a pain to configure. I'd love to stick this in my apartment (even though I can only receive a maximum of 10mb/s). As a side note, I'm surprised this isn't marketed alongside the Nest branch. It really has the look and feel of Nest products…

I think the best way to judge this product is as a hub for a smart home. The fact that it is an easy to wifi router is incidental (in spite of the fact that is all the marketing is talking about). It seems pretty clear, "onHub" is suppose to be a hub for a bunch of "on" branded smart home devices.

I've written some more fleshed out thoughts here: https://medium.com/@mrwilliamchang/onhub-is-not-a-router-foc...

Re: OnHub

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Post by radlad »

elwell wrote: post #617
Tepix wrote: post #580

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Agreed. Even if Gmail is superior in some regards (I don't know - is it? There must be a reason so many people use it), as a tech savvy person I consider it a matter of pride (and privacy of course) to run my own mailserver with project like Sovereign https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign

I would be worried about getting marked as a spam server.

And this is exactly the reason I use Gmail.

Re: OnHub

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Post by SZJX »

astrocyte wrote: post #321

My biggest issue with this is that Google wants to inject a piece of hardware into my home that acts as the gateway to my data. A device through which all : > Incoming data runs through > Internal data runs through > Outgoing data runs through And then wants to be vague about what data they will be pumping to their back-end for analytics/data mining. I have had a long standing proposal for home automation and I'm cur…

Well I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with Google. So suddenly people have started to become suspicious about what data a router is able to collect, while in fact various routers which are well capable of executing malicious applications have been around forever? This is just a trend and Google is not some inherently evil guy that acts outside of the norm. Ditch Google? Fine. The next alternative you find is equally, if not more, likely to perform some data collection. Of course you can go full Stallman and ensure your data are truly guarded by your own in every possible sense. But the heavy price that comes with it, we all have seen.

Re: OnHub

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Post by ireflect »

elwell wrote: post #617
Tepix wrote: post #580

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Agreed. Even if Gmail is superior in some regards (I don't know - is it? There must be a reason so many people use it), as a tech savvy person I consider it a matter of pride (and privacy of course) to run my own mailserver with project like Sovereign https://github.com/sovereign/sovereign

I would be worried about getting marked as a spam server.

This is a common belief but it hasn't been an issue in my experience of running my email server (with Sovereign) for the last two years. I run about a dozen email addresses over a handful of domains for myself and some friends and colleagues.

Sovereign includes instructions/configuration to run an upstanding email server citizen, including SPL, TKIP, MTA encryption, etc. Remote mail servers seem to respect it at least as much as gmail.

It also runs a rbl-check script once a day to notify you if your IP ends up on a blacklist. In two years running on both DigitalOcean, I've had no issues. Even gmail routinely gets added to RBLs from time to time.

Re: OnHub

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Post by NetDissent »

nota_bene wrote: post #564
Albright wrote: post #506

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Oh, come on. Just connect your Google router to your Google fiber connection and connect to it with your smartphone or laptop running a Google operating system and Google browser. Visit your Google home page (using Google's DNS servers, of course) to read your Google Mail, or perhaps catch up on the news with Google News, or use Google+ to see what your friends are up to, or get a little work done on Google Docs. Sho…

Spot on. I don't get it. It's become so obvious and people still seem to categorically refuse to admit the elephant in the room and to act upon it. It's as if everybody was in some kind of unbreakable state of permanent cognitive paralysis.

Just finished reading 'The Circle' by Dave Eggers - think Google's monopoly and totalitarianism come true - and this just further reiterates how Google are become so pervasive and invasive in monetising off everyone's data and lack of privacy awareness.

I'll go back to dial-up rather than have all my activity centralised in the Google ether.

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